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Radeon RX 7800XT and RX 7700XT Review – AMD, XFX and Sapphire against NVIDIA with reason or energetic crowbar

Summary

And where did the new cards sort themselves now? Because I can’t avoid a conclusion after all the measurements and benchmarks. Let’s therefore start with the larger Radeon RX 7800XT 16 GB. AMD has deliberately positioned the NAVI32 full upgrade for 549 Euros RRP against NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB. As of this morning, it costs at least 595 Euros, which is almost 50 Euros more. And now you have to weigh what you would rather play in the future – pure raster graphics or games with DXR or ray tracing capabilities. The GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB has 4 GB less memory, which should not be a big issue in WQHD yet, but could be at some point.

In QHD, the Radeon RX 7800XT MBA easily takes 5.5% off the RX 6800 XT in the 60:40 percent mix of raster and ray tracing games and is thus both faster and a bit more frugal. The Radeon RX 7800XT is 2.6 percentage points behind the GeForce RTX 4070 FE 12 GB. It would even be ahead in pure raster graphics, but clearly behind in DXR. What is disappointing, however, is the power consumption, even if AMD does not consider it to be that relevant for gamers. We wouldn’t have to argue about a few watts, but the RTX 4070 FE consumes 61 watts less than the RX 7800XT MBA on average in all games. That is really a lot.

The XFX RX 7800 XT MERC 16 GB is only 0.7 percentage points behind the GeForce RTX 4070 on average in mixed performance and de facto achieves a tie and would leave the NVIDIA card far behind in pure raster graphics. However, this performance boost has been bought with the energy crowbar because there are now even 85 watts more at the power supply. Especially since the board partner card should be considerably higher than the RRP. Here, not only the power comes into play, but also the necessity to dissipate this waste heat, because the system heats up much faster. More was not to be expected from NAVI32, which can almost be calculated with a calculator. Thus, the big surprise has failed to materialize and AMD sells the card via the price and the argument of offering more memory. I’ll write something about FSR3 in a moment when it comes to the feature set compared to NVIDIA.

But before that, let’s take a look at the Radeon RX 7700XT. That there is no MBA card from AMD is justified with a lack of buyer interest in MBA cards. I can’t quite understand that, because these cards are usually the most reasonable offers in the respective chip class. And you wouldn’t even have risked fragmentation here, because apart from one less voltage converter phase and a lower power limit in the firmware, the cards are identical. However, you won’t earn much from it if you don’t reduce the price further. The 489 euro RRP makes the Radeon RX 7700XT a typical upselling product.

That sounds paradoxical at first, but it is quite understandable from AMD’s point of view. The gap to the currently around 270 euro Radeon RX 7600 is huge. Especially since the small Navi33 card can’t really do anything. If you prefer AMD as a provider, you’ll inevitably have to buy an RX 7700XT if it’s not quite enough for the RX 7800XT. Yes, he could of course climb the ladder more slowly and go for an RX 6750XT that costs at least 365 Euros, but he would then have a slower card. And the 120 Euros more is still a lot of money to spend. The RX 7700XT will sell well in the shadow of the RX 7800XT, maybe even better in the end

The reason is actually simple, because NVIDIA doesn’t really have anything in this performance class. The GeForce RTX 4060 Ti with 8 GB, which costs at least 399 Euros, is no opponent at all. The card simply lacks basic performance and is slower than the just mentioned RX 6750XT anyway. The 16 GB variant for around 500 Euros doesn’t help either; the Radeon RX 7700XT simply offers more here. AMD gratefully pokes into a huge gap with this card that NVIDIA has criminally (or even intentionally?) left open. And that’s exactly why I feel the absence of the MBA card is a loss.

The feature set of AMD cards could be significantly upgraded soon with FSR, only they’ve been preaching that since February this year. It didn’t work out with Starfield yet, now we’re waiting for the first DL to Cyberpunk 2077, NVIDIA’s playground, where FSR 3 is supposed to be integrated for the first time. I really wish AMD all the best, but to try to premiere exactly this hunk either shows great self-confidence or pure nihilism. We’ll of course follow and test this objectively and without prejudice, because competition never hurts.

AMD Radeon RX 7800XT MBA 16 GB

It’s a well-done reason card within the scope of feasible efficiency, which doesn’t allow itself any real weaknesses and has been really solidly constructed. The fact that three expensive PWM controllers and the matching Smart Power Stages are used instead of cheaper DrMOS, well, yes. It only helped to a limited extent. But the card looks extremely solid and well thought-out. The dimensions are acceptable and still quite compact. This game type will certainly find its buyers, there’s no need to speculate.

XFX Radeon RX 7800XT MERC 16 GB

XFX has left reason aside and used the same board to build a fun card with an integrated crowbar, which gives NAVI32 another boost and can even catch up with the GeForce RTX 4070 in terms of performance. It is also quiet, but the coil whine should be practiced a bit more. XFX sets the MSRP at $529.99 to $539.99, which puts the card in a much worse position than the GeForce RTX 4070. However, we have to wait for the launch and the real Euro prices to make an objective and fair judgment. But it will certainly be close. However, the card is well-done, visually and haptically on par and the PCB is also completely okay.

XFX Radeon RX 7700XT QICK 12 GB

The same PCB, similar cooler and a similar look – this card can score with that, because it is almost as quiet as its big sister and much more economical. In terms of efficiency, it is clearly ahead, even if it is simply not enough against the NVIDIA cards. But it is a solid card without any capers, that has to be fairly conceded. The coils are also much more restrained here. As for the price, at 459.99 – 469.99 USD MSRP, it’s also above the Euro MSRP again, and we’ll have to wait and see what the stores end up pricing out. In any case, the card isn’t bad, just plenty big.

Sapphire Radeon RX 7700XT Pulse 12 GB

This card is almost as compact as AMD’s RX 7800XT MBA card and also uses a modified custom PCB, which suggests the Nitro by the unoccupied placeholders for MCU and ARGB. In addition, and I will also test the RTX 7800XT Nitro and the RX 7700XT Pure, another phase can be connected to the PEG. Let’s see what this brings, if any. The card is somewhat limited by the tighter power limit compared to the XFX card and even requires a bit more power due to the different PCB. But these are minor differences. The card looks solid and cleanly processed, you can’t expect more anyway.

Conclusion

Better late than never. AMD must have said that to itself with this launch, because they could have sold the whole thing a long time ago. Above all, the Radeon RX 7700XT doesn’t have a real opponent and whether the 4 GB more memory of the RX 7800XT and a slightly lower price can compete with a GeForce RTX 4070 remains to be seen. Some customers will want to use DLSS, Frame Generation and NVIDIA’s entire AI gadgets, that is out of the question. However, it remains to be seen how relevant this will be for the masses, because you really have to see if it goes over the price. If not, the Radeon RX 7700XT is the real star of this launch. I wouldn’t have thought so at the beginning either. My only concern is the actual availability, but there we will have to see what really arrives.

The graphics cards were provided by AMD and the board partners for this test. The only condition was the adherence to the lock period, no influence or compensation took place.

 

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LEIV

Urgestein

1,549 Kommentare 632 Likes

Uff, schlimmer als befürchtet, hoffentlich wirds bei der nächsten Generation wieder besser

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Igor Wallossek

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Die RX 7700XT ist eigentlich gut, denn sie füllt eine böse Lücke. Und NV hat da einfach nichts.

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RX480

Urgestein

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View image at the forums

Wenn der Preis sich normalisiert, net schlecht.

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Roland83

Urgestein

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@Igor da hast du in der Überschrift schnell mal die 7800XTX gespoilert xD

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Moeppel

Urgestein

868 Kommentare 312 Likes

Also ein Lückenfüller und eine 6900XT zum Preis einer 6900XT?

Reiht sich nahtlos in den Rest der Generation ein, würd ich sagen ;)

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SchmoWu

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Danke für den Test.

@Igor Wallossek bringst du noch was zum untervolten? Wieviel Verbrauch man einsparen kann und wie sich das auf die Leistung auswirkt.

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ChaosKopp

Urgestein

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Nicht, dass es an sich schlechte Karten sind, aber diese Generation hat nicht geliefert, was wir uns wohl erhofft hatten.

Mich wundert, wie inkonsistent die Leistung im Vergleich zu den Vorgängern ist. Mal spürbar mehr Performance, mal nicht so prall. Als läge wirklich noch treiberseitig etwas im Argen.

Gut, man war auch gewohnt, dass das Preis- Leistungsverhältnis sich jede Generation verbessert. Und die Leistungsaufnahme.

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Igor Wallossek

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Da AMD uns leider nichts mehr machen lässt, wird das eher nichts :(

Ja, kommt vom Stress. Peinlich aber auch. Habs gefixt :D

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SchmoWu

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schade aber trotzdem Danke Igor

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exi78

Veteran

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Finde die Karten jetzt nicht schlimm, beides gute Karten.

Nach wie vor gibt es paar 6800 und 6800XT im Abverkauft, da kann man noch paar € sparen, grad wenn beide unter 400€/500€ zu bekommen sind.

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echolot

Urgestein

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Habe es befürchtet und bin direkt vom Benchmark zum Fazit übergangen. Im Grunde geht auch noch eine günstig zu ergatternde 6800XT, aber ganz ehrlich für 1080p und 1440p besser eine RTX 4070, alleine schon wegen dem Stromhunger. Was haben die sich nur dabei gedacht. Wenn jetzt FSR3 exklusiv nur für die neuen Karten verfügbar wäre könnte man das der Community ja noch vermitteln. Abser so lautet mein Fazit: 3 Jahre alte Technik annähernd auf Augenhöhe mit der neuen Generation. Nichts neues unter der Sonne. Schade.

Nachtrag: man muss natürlich abwarten was AMD mit FSR3 abliefert, aber zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt ist die 4070 schon alleine aufgrund von DLSS 3.5 und Frame Generation die bessere Wahl.

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RX_Vega1975

Veteran

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NEUER v23.20 Branch für die gerade Releasten 7700XT und 7800XT Karten
Mit welchem Treiber wurde getestet und zudem was bringen die Neuen Optionen im Treiber Menü @Igor Wallossek
Kannst dies schon mal sagen bitte,- Danke!

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Staarfury

Veteran

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Dass die 7800XT gegen aufgrund der 4070 mit ähnlicher Leistung und ähnlichem Preis nicht unbedingt brilliert kann ich verstehen.

Aber wieso die 7700 XT mit ~16% weniger Leistung für 11% tieferen Preis dann zu einem guten Angebot wird, nur weil Nvidia da kein schlaues Produkt hat, erschliesst sich mir nicht wirklich.

Für mich ist die 7700 XT den aufgerufenen Preis nicht wert, und die 4060 Ti als "Alternative" ist nochmals viel schlechter.

P.S. Die Überschrift von Seite 9 hat noch die falsche Auflösung.

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Wheely

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Noch eine kleine Sache zum ändern: die Überschrift der Seite 9 ist Details zu Full-HD, soll aber wahrscheinlich Details zu WQHD heißen.

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Casi030

Urgestein

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Schaun wir mal.;)
PL runter und mehr FPS ist doch auch was......

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Yumiko

Veteran

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Das ist ja genau die Nvidia-Taktik: Nur die neuere Generation bekommt die coolen Features, so dass die Leute nicht die sonst grob gleichwertige und inzwischen günstige Vorgängergeneration kaufen können.
Das ist doch super fair von AMD - hätten ja FSR3 auch nur für die 7xxx Generation machen können. Ok, wäre wegen Open Source wohl eh nicht gegangen - noch ein Vorteil von AMD: läuft auf allen Karten die wollen/können.

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Yumiko

Veteran

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Vielleicht machst du dann mal ein Artikel ;)

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echolot

Urgestein

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Noch mal von hier kopiert:

Das ist auch das was die anderen Tester in ihren benchmarks aufzeigen. Preislich würde ich trotzdem zur 7800 XT greifen. 50 € machen den Bock nicht fett und für 4GB mehr RAM und bessere Chipleistung ganz klar zu bevorzugen. Wenn man dann schon 50 € mehr hat, dann sind die nächsten auch nicht mehr weit und man gönnt sich eine RTX 4070. Die Staffelung von 400 bis 600 € ist aber auch sowas von eng. Mal gucken wer zuerst einbricht.

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Igor Wallossek

Editor-in-chief and name-giver of igor'sLAB as the content successor of Tom's Hardware Germany, whose license was returned in June 2019 in order to better meet the qualitative demands of web content and challenges of new media such as YouTube with its own channel.

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