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Boosters for the Rocket (Lake) – G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-5066 CL20 2x 8 GB Memory Kit Review with Overclocking

An Intel Core i9 11900K CPU on a Maximus XIII Apex motherboard from Asus is used as the test platform. The CPU is not manually overclocked for this and only the Adaptive Boost Technology is activated to achieve the highest possible clock rates in all situations. The cache clock is statically increased to 4.5 GHz to ensure the best possible connection to the main memory. The BIOS version used is 0903, which is the latest at the time of testing. 

But I also didn’t want to pass up the chance to take our AMD Ryzen platform for a spin with a 5950X CPU on a Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro v2 motherboard, which is best suited for high RAM clock speeds with its optimized daisy chain 4-DIMM layout. The CPU is operated with Precision Boost Overdrive and an Infinity Fabric clock of 1900 MHz. The BIOS version used is F13k, which is the latest at the time of testing. 

As always, a complete listing of the hardware used follows here:

Test systems
Hardware:

Intel platform

  • CPU: Intel Core i9-11900K (ABT, no BIOS limits, 4.5 GHz cache)
  • Mainboard: Asus Maximus XIII Apex (BIOS 0903)
  • tested clock rates:
    • DDR4-5066 20-30-30-50 1T 1.6 V (XMP), Gear 2
    • DDR4-5066 20-27-27-46 1T 1.6 V, Gear 2
    • DDR4-3866 15-20-20-35 2T 1.6V, Gear 1
    • Control Kit DDR4-4800 18-18-18-36 1T 1.5 V, Gear 2
    • Control Kit DDR4-3866 18-18-18-36 2T 1.5 V Gear 1
  • Memory Control Kit: G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x 8 GB DDR4-4000 CL15 1.5 V Kit

AMD platform

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (PBO, max limits)
  • Mainboard: Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro v2 (BIOS F13k)
  • tested clock rates:
    • DDR4-4800 18-26-25-45 GDM 1.6 V 2:1
    • DDR4-3800 16-20-19-36 GDM 1.6 V 1:1

 

  • Power supply: Superflower Leadex Gold 1600W
  • SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 500GB (SATA 3, OS)
  • Graphics card: Nvidia RTX 3090 Founders Edition (driver 471.11, max power/temp limit)
  • Operating system: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (21H1, up-to-date)
Cooling:
  • CPU Block: TechN CPU Waterblock Intel LGA1200 / AM4
  • CPU TIM: Arctic MX-5
  • Radiators: Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 480mm + HardwareLabs Black Ice GTX 240mm
  • Fans: 4x Phobya NB-eLoop 120mm 1600rpm + 2x Noiseblocker NB eLoop B12-4 120mm
  • Pump: XSPC D5 PWM
Housing:
  • Open Benchtable
Periphery:
  • Monitor: Benq XL2720
  • Keyboard: KBC Poker 2 (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse Zowie FK1
Measuring devices
  • Thermometer: Elmor KTH (calibrated)
  • USB-to-Serial Adapter: Elmor EVC 2

In order to be able to put the performance of the RAM kit into relation, the tests on the Intel platform are also carried out with a manually overclocked single-rank B-Die kit. The control sample or “Control Kit” used for this purpose bears the product number F4-4000C15D-16GVK and also comes from G.Skill. The tested clock rates represent the maximum overclocs that could be achieved with the used hardware in the time frame of the review and reproducibly tested as stable. Besides the XMP profile with DDR4-5066, I of course wanted to overclock the kit with the goal of stabilizing DDR4-5333 or maybe even DDR4-5600. Unfortunately, I encountered problems that could not be solved even with considerable time expenditure and which I would like to explain briefly in the following. 

With 1.65 V RAM voltage, just mentioned clock rates can be booted without problems, even when the timings are tightened. Contrary to my expectations, looser timings do not lead to higher clock rates or more stability, rather the opposite. As you can see in the two screenshots above, the configuration with DDR4-5333 with timings 20-27-27-46 is stable, but only once or until the next boot or memory training. If the system is rebooted “cold” and thus performs a new memory training, the kit may not survive a minute in the TM5 without errors. BIOS settings have not been changed in the meantime, RTTs are the same and the DIMM temperature is also identical except for about 3 °C. 

In my mind, the only possible explanation for the inconsistent behavior is a possible bug in the BIOS or microcode that is responsible for the memory training. So it is currently not possible for me to stabilize clock rates above DDR4-5066 reproducible. This doesn’t stop us from coaxing more performance out of the kit by tightening up the timings though. The mentioned primary timings 20-27-27-46 are now applied to the clock rate DDR4-5066 and then the remaining timings are tightened.

Here comes another limitation, caused by the silicon quality of the integrated memory controller (IMC) of the CPU. So both of my i9 CPUs seem to generally clock higher in the Gear 1, while being less stable at high clock speeds in the Gear 2. On the other hand, my i7 CPU is limited to DDR4-3733 in Gear 1, but can run tighter timings stably at the same clock speeds in Gear 2. Whether there is a general interaction between the stability in the gears per CPU can of course not be determined based on 3 CPUs.

As a consequence, the better of the two i9 CPUs also becomes unstable if you tighten, say, the secondary timings tRRD_S or _L or tertiary timings on DDR4-5066. However, since the i9 CPU performs better in benchmarks due to its higher core clock alone and also allows higher clock rates in Gear 1, the complete manual overclocking only makes it into the screenshot above. All tested configurations were operated only with manually set primary timings, tRFC, tREFI and tRC, at 1.6 V. The RAM kit can definitely do more, it’s just that my combination of CPU and motherboard can’t get it stable, at least currently.

In terms of voltages on the Intel platform, IO Mem are set to 1.55 V, SA to 1.4 V in Gear 2 and 1.6 V in Gear1. On the AMD platform, 1.2 V SOC, 1.1 V VDDG IOD and 1.0 V VDDG CCD are used. In the following gallery I have all configurations with all their timings set or left on auto for you to browse through:

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ric84

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Heftiges RAM Kit. Abgesehen von der Machbarkeit (Wahnsinn!!), sehe ich darin derzeit noch nicht den großen Vorteil (solange wir vom Gaming reden). Ist es möglich, das Kit eventuell bei 3800MHz gar mit CL12 oder CL14 zu betreiben? Ich glaube, dann rennt es allen weg.

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C
Cat Left

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Hmm Laut Part number des Burners sind es ja CJR chips. Sehr verwirrend das ganz. Ab die Hardware also der chip selber hat natürlich immer Recht.

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Denniss

Urgestein

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Dann doch lieber ~4000er B-Die mit guten Timings und etwas weniger Spannung. Scheint mir dann das rundere Paket auch wenns etwas teurer ist.

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skullbringer

Veteran

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Für stabilen, täglichen Betrieb leider nein, zumindest mit der XMP Spannung von 1,6V. 3800 CL14 war aber fast stabil mit dem 5950X im 1:1 Modus, also hier könnte man z.B. mit 1,65V vielleicht stabil werden, aber natürlich auch abhängig von CPU und Mainboard.

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RX480

Urgestein

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Jo,
finde das Control-Kit@4800 am interessantesten. --> Muss nur noch bezahlbarer Stuff auf den Markt kommen.

Bringt eigentlich bei RKL ein Kit mit Dualrank noch Was?

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veitograf

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26 Kommentare 9 Likes

kleiner typo im fazit:
Zumindest Leistungstechnisch-technisch...

Danke für den Test!

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Slashchat

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ich warte auf ddr5 und die dann neue intel generation.

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G
Guest

Weiß jemand genaueres über die IMC von Intel/AMD, ab wie viel Volt die sterben?
1,6Volt (!) ist ja nicht wenig.

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skullbringer

Veteran

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Da es mittlerweile schon so viele DDR4 Kits mit 1,6 V XMP gibt, dürfen die + Toleranz wirklich unbedenklich sein. Und bei höheren Spannungen wird eher der RAM wegen Hitze instabil, sodass man ab ca. 1,7 V ohnehin nur noch für Benchmarking verwenden kann.

Aus meiner Erfahrungen mit Intel und AMD sind aber dann für ein paar Stunden Benchmarking am Stück auch 2 V auf dem RAM kein Problem. Dabei ist bei mir bisher nichts nachvollziehbar degraded oder spontan gestorben.

Bei Vdimm sind die IMCs also weitaus weniger empfindlich als bei System Agent oder SOC Spannung ;)

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G
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Ich muss mal schauen wo überhaupt noch signifikant eine Steigerung zu erwarten wäre (alte B-Die)
Bis 1,6Volt traue ich mich Dank Fan über Speicher mal ran....und gucke wes passiert.
THX für Info

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