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Beginner class: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200 in test

If you want to refresh your knowledge of AMD's new architecture, take a look at the launch article "AMD's Ryzen 7 1800X in Test" and the first follow-up "The Ryzen Family: Three Sevens with Eight Cores in second Comparison", as well as the... Introduction In the gaming tests, we provide the two Ryzen 3 with different CPUs from a similar price or performance segment and have also overclocked the Ryzen 3 1300X to a stable and safe 3.9 GHz, which is also... Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation (DX12) In contrast to the synthetic tests, only the Ryzen 3 1300X can still compete reasonably well, while the Ryzen 3 1200 operates at the level of the Pentium G4620. All CPUs in detail again... Grand Theft Auto V (DX11) GTA V benefits most of the clock as soon as at least four real cores are available. The two Pentium are behind the Ryzen 3 1200, albeit only narrowly, while the Core i3 are all faster. Only the Ryzen ... Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor (DX11) Shadow of Mordor is an Intel domain. Here, all Core i3 and even the Pentium G4620 are faster than an overclocked Ryzen 3 and the Ryzen 5 1400 with overclocking. The Ryzen 3 1200 is the final light... Far Cry Primal (DX11) A lot helps a lot, at least when it comes to Far Cry Primal and the CPU clock. Otherwise, the Intel CPUs will once again be able to dominate the nominally stronger Ryzen 3 and 5. At this point, the ... The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt The Witcher 3 is an Intel domain, there's nothing to gloss over. This is especially evident in the Min-FPS, when clock and thus IPC go above everything. All CPUs again in the detailed individual presentation as gallery ... Introduction During the launch article of AMD's Ryzen 7 CPUs, we had already explained all workstation and HPC benchmarks in great detail and also questioned the background for many results in some cases even down to the last detail. En... Tctl sensor values and many new questions We already know since the launch of the larger Ryzen 7 CPUs and the follow-ups to Ryzen 5 that the display of the temperature values at the current Ryzen CPUs is at least not without problems. We... Introduction The power consumption values are based on the sensor values provided by the power supply of the MSI motherboard. For the measurements, we used a special low-pass filter, which allows short-term power peaks or... Summary The Ryzen 3 1300X and 1200 are certainly an interesting offer, if you look at them within their price and performance class, as well as assume that the street price is still a little below the recommended price...

If you want to refresh your knowledge of AMD's new architecture, take a look at the launch article "AMD's Ryzen 7 1800X in Test" and the first follow-up "The Ryzen Family: Three Sevens with Eight Cores in Second Comparison", as well as the launch article on the Ryzen 5 where everything has already been described in detail.

According to the manufacturer, the advantage of AMD's scalable architecture should also be to be able to adapt the CPUs with their expansion almost at will, so that a wide range of constellations from consumer to server CPUs can be put on the market without much additional effort. can bring. One of the backgrounds is, of course, purely economic, because it also means that many chips can be reused, for which a part is not functional or only to a limited extent. But this is neither new nor offensive, but important for better yield and in the end also ensures survival.

The basis for this versatile denomination is AMD's CPU Complex (CCX for short), which we still know from the architectural description of the Ryzen launch. Each of these CCX contains four cores, so you might suspect a real halved eight-core behind the Ryzen 3 1300X. But that is obviously not the case.

Instead, AMD says it uses only two cores (2-2) of each CCX. However, the L3 cache halves in total to 8 MB, as with the Ryzen 5 1400, which could be a disadvantage. In addition, each of the cores of both CPUs, as usual, still has 64 KB of L1 cache (commands and data) and 512 KB L2 cache available. However, what the Ryzen 3 CPUs do, for example, from Ryzen 5 1500X and 1400 really fundamentally different is the absence of SMT, which limits the number of threads to the number of physically present cores.

  Ryzen 5 1300X Ryzen 3 1200 Ryzen 5 1500X Ryzen 5 1400
Cores
4 (4 Threads)
4 (4 Threads) 4 (8 Threads) 4 (8 Threads)
Base clock
3.4 GHz
3.1 GHz
3.5 GHz 3.2 GHz
All-core boost
3.6 GHz
3.1 GHz
3.6 GHz 3.4 GHz
2-core boost
3.7 GHz
3.4 GHz
3.7 GHz K.a.
XFR max.
3.9 GHz
3.45 GHz
3.9 GHz K.a.
L3 Cache
8 MB
8 MB 2x 8 MB 8 MB
L2 Cache
512 KB per core
L1 Cache
64 KB per core
CCX Config
2-2
2-2
2-2 2-2
Rating
65 watts
65 watts
65 watts 65 watts
Eia
Including. Vat.
€135 €115 €209.00 €189.00

There is still the eternally young price question. Here we will now have to take the actual test results as the actual yardstick for the final assessment.

Each of the CPUs already contains AMD's Wrait stealth cooler in the box, which does not make a bad figure overall for the called power dissipation and can even cool down the components on the motherboard as a downblower.

Test system and configuration

We are testing the two CPUs on the same platform as Ryzen 5 by using the MSI B350 Tomahawk, a more cost-effective motherboard from the 100 Euro class. Of course, overclocking attempts can also be started with this motherboard – at least as far as the CPU as such really allows. We can already spoil the fact that the Ryzen 3 1300X on 4.0 GHz and the Ryzen 3 1200 could be overclocked up to 3.9 GHz and operated equally in a long-term stable manner.

As a special feature, the board offers its own temperature measurement by means of a sensor in the socket area, whereby we want to refer explicitly (without pre-pre-presetting in detail now) to our own measurements and explanations of AMD's Tctl values, which will follow later in the article. . At least the findings from MMI's sensors were the trigger for our somewhat more detailed paragraph on this topic (from page 7).

The AM4 motherboard is based on the AMD B350 chipset and has four DDR4 slots for up to 64 GB of memory, whereby we will only use two slots in our test with a total of 16GB (2x 8GB DDR4 3200). On board are a PCIe 3.0 x16 slot, a PCIe 2.0 x4 slot, two PCIe 2.0 x1 slots and two older PCI slots. The motherboard also features a 7.1 onboard sound chip, a Gigabit Ethernet interface, as well as four SATA3 ports, an M.2 port, as well as USB 3.0 Type-C and USB 3.0 ports.

As RAM we used two 8GB modules G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 3200 (CL15-15-15-35) as well as two 8GB modules Geil EvoX DDR4 3200 (CL16-16-16-36), all of which ran smoothly.

Commissioning and technical data

The new test system and the methodology we have already described in great detail in the basic article "So we are testing graphics cards, as of February 2017" and so we now only refer to this detailed description for the sake of simplicity. So if you want to read everything again, you are welcome to do so.

In this case, only the hardware configuration with CPU, RAM, motherboard, as well as the new cooling is different, so that the summary in table form quickly gives a brief overview of the system used here and today:

Test systems and measuring rooms
Hardware:
AMD Ryzen 3, 5 and 7
MSI B350 Tomahawk

Intel Core i5 7600K, Core i5 7500
MSI Z270 Gaming 7

AMD FX-8370
Asus Sabertooth 990FX

16 GB (2x 8GB) G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 3200 (CL15-15-15-35)
1x 1 TByte Toshiba OCZ RD400 (M.2, System SSD)
2x 960 GByte Toshiba OCZ TR150 (Storage, Images)

Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 11, 850-watt power supply
Windows 10 Pro (Creators Update)

Nvidia GTX 1080 Founders Edition (Gaming)
Nvidia Quadro P6000 (Workstation)

Cooling:
Alphacool Ice Age 2000 Chiller
Alphacool Ice Block XPX
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (for cooler change)
Monitor: Eizo EV3237-BK
Housing:
Lian Li PC-T70 with expansion kit and modifications
Modes: Open Benchtable, Closed Case
Power consumption:
non-contact DC measurement on the PCIe slot (Riser-Card)
non-contact DC measurement on the external PCIe power supply
direct voltage measurement at the shunts, the respective feeders and the power supply
Reading out the motherboard sensors
2x Rohde & Schwarz HMO 3054, 500 MHz multi-channel oscillograph with memory function
4x Rohde & Schwarz HZO50, current togor adapter (1 mA to 30 A, 100 KHz, DC)
4x Rohde & Schwarz HZ355, touch divider (10:1, 500 MHz)
1x Rohde & Schwarz HMC 8012, digital multimeter with storage function
Thermography:
Optris PI640, infrared camera
PI Connect evaluation software with profiles
Acoustics:
NTI Audio M2211 (with calibration file)
Steinberg UR12 (with phantom power for the microphones)
Creative X7, Smaart v.7
own low-reflection measuring room, 3.5 x 1.8 x 2.2 m (LxTxH)
Axial measurements, perpendicular to the center of the sound source(s), measuring distance 50 cm
Noise in dBA (Slow) as RTA measurement
Frequency spectrum as a graph

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