Question GIGABYTE 5700 XT Bios mod fails

[AlleyCat]

Hi,
I am failing to update Gigabyte 5700 XT. The same procedure updates the BIOS on MSI cards with no problem. I follow the instructions on Igors Lab.

The sign of having trouble with the card bios flash shows in GPU-Z. After flash using amdvbflash the values of GPU and memory frequencies is empty. With stock bios there are Mhz frequencies.

Is there any known problems with flashing Gigabyte cards?
Any suggestions on what other forums I may ask for assistance?
Is it possible that the OEM bios is signed, and any modified bios will be rejected?
If the bios is signed, any tools to resign, or would I need to buy a card from a different vendor?

Thanks,

Alley Cat

 

[Mini_Me]

Last night I had the production restarting a few times. Let's focus on stability and low power.

Here are a few ideas to consider:

1) Would it make sense to test the Micron memory speeds above 960?

2) Increasing the core speed makes a significant power increase, which reduces significantly the efficiency. Is there are a way to reduce the impact of core speed increase on power?

For Micron, it is best to keep the memory temperature below 90° C.
Have you stabilized the core clock at 1500 MHz, if yes then at what VDD it stabilized? How much power being consumed at 1500 MHz? And what is the MH/s at 1500 MHz?

 

[AlleyCat]

Please, would you inform me which power table have you applied, the Micron one or the Samsung one? and to which card?

The Micron card.

 

[AlleyCat]

For Micron, it is best to keep the memory temperature below 90° C.
Have you stabilized the core clock at 1500 MHz, if yes then at what VDD it stabilized? How much power being consumed at 1500 MHz? And what is the MH/s at 1500 MHz?

Sapphire with Micron memory, core at 1500, VDD790 VDDCI 790, Mem speed, Crashes.
Gigabyte with Micron memory, core at 1500, VDD750 VDDCI 750, Mem speed 950, MH/s 59.51, 117W, Mem 80c, Core 51c

 

[Mini_Me]

The Micron card.

Strange however I believe the reason might be the memory DPM 3, let us make it less than the memory maximum clock, like below:

- Under Features tab enable all the overdive features,
- Under Overdrive Limits tab, set:
GFX Maximum Clock (2000 Micron - 2250 Samsung) MHz
Memory Maximum Clock (1000 Micron - 1125 Samsung) MHz
Under Power and Voltages, set:
Maximum Voltage GFX 1250 mv
Maximum Voltage SoC 1250 mv
Minimum Voltage GFX 750 mv
Minimum Voltage SoC 750 mv
Power Limit GPU 180 W
TDC Limit GFX 166 A
TDC Limit SoC 14 A
- Under Frequency tap, set:
GFX Maximum 1400 MHz
Memory DPM 3 - (950 Micron - 1000 Samsung) MHz

 

[Mini_Me]

Sapphire with Micron memory, core at 1500, VDD790 VDDCI 790 Mem speed, Crashes.
Gigabyte with Micron memory, core at 1500, VDD750 VDDCI 750 Mem speed, MH/s 59.51, 117W, Mem 80c, Core 51c

How much the ratio for the Gigabyte card?

 

[AlleyCat]

Strange however I believe the reason is the memory DPM 3, it seems it should be less than the memory maximum clock, which means it should be like below:

- Under Features tab enable all the overdive features,
- Under Overdrive Limits tab, set:
GFX Maximum Clock (2000 Micron - 2250 Samsung) MHz
Memory Maximum Clock (1000 Micron - 1125 Samsung) MHz
Under Power and Voltages, set:
Maximum voltage GFX 1200 mv
Maximum voltage SoC 1200 mv
Minimum voltage GFX 750 mv
Minimum voltage SoC 750 mv
Power Limit GPU 180 W
TDC limit GFX 168 A
TDC Limit SoC (12 Micron - 14 Samsung) A.
- Under Frequency tap, set:
GFX maximum 1465 MHz
Memory DPM 3 - (995 Micron - 1120 Samsung) MHz

Let's focus on one card to reduce the changing variables.
The card that I isolated for testing is a Gigabyte / Micron.
Let me apply the power table with Apple straps and report the performance of core speed between 1400 and 1500.

 

[Mini_Me]

Let's focus on one card to reduce the changing variables.
The card that I isolated for testing is a Gigabyte / Micron.
Let me apply the power table with Apple straps and report the performance of core speed between 1400 and 1500.

I recommend to focus on the core between the 1450 MHz to 1700 MHz and the VDD between 750 mv and 800 mv as a final attempt to find the best performance to power ratio and compare it with core clock at 1425 MHz at 725 VDD.

 

[AlleyCat]

Strange however I believe the reason is the memory DPM 3, it seems it should be less than the memory maximum clock, which means it should be like below:

- Under Features tab enable all the overdive features,
- Under Overdrive Limits tab, set:
GFX Maximum Clock (2000 Micron - 2250 Samsung) MHz
Memory Maximum Clock (1000 Micron - 1125 Samsung) MHz
Under Power and Voltages, set:
Maximum voltage GFX 1200 mv
Maximum voltage SoC 1200 mv
Minimum voltage GFX 750 mv
Minimum voltage SoC 750 mv
Power Limit GPU 180 W
TDC limit GFX 168 A
TDC Limit SoC (12 Micron - 14 Samsung) A.
- Under Frequency tap, set:
GFX maximum 1465 MHz
Memory DPM 3 - (995 Micron - 1120 Samsung) MHz

Please find is a performance table between core 1450 to 1500.

 

[Mini_Me]

Please find is a performance table between core 1450 to 1500.

The one before the last one, the core clock at 1500 MHz, 750 mv VDD, 750 MHz VDDCI and memory clock 960 MHz is very good, I believe with this no need for more core clock at the meantime,
Let us tune the memory now,
Please try to increase the memory clock by 5 MHz until it is fail after that increase the MVDD to 1375 mv and increase again until it fail again, we are going to fix the VDDCI value at 750 mv while doing that,
Please do keep an eye on the memory temperature.

 

[AlleyCat]

The one before the last one, the core clock at 1500 MHz, 750 mv VDD, 750 MHz VDDCI and memory clock 960 MHz is very good, I believe with this no need for more core clock at the meantime,
Let us tune the memory now,
Please try to increase the memory clock by 5 MHz until it is fail after that increase the MVDD to 1375 mv and increase again until it fail again, we are going to fix the VDDCI value at 750 mv while doing that,
Please do keep an eye on the memory temperature.

 

[Mini_Me]

You have done an excellent work here,
Now I believe we reached the best result for the card with the micron memory.

1- Core clock at 1425 MHz, VDD at 725 MHz, VDDCI at 750 MHz, MVDD at 1350 mv, Memory clock at 960 MHz, Power at 113 w and MH/s more than 59,

2- Core clock at 1500 MHz, VDD at 750 MHz, VDDCI at 750 MHz, MVDD at 1350 mv, Memory clock at 960 MHz, Power at 117 w and MH/s more than 60,

The only thing remains is to test the above stability for the long run.

 

[AlleyCat]

You have done an excellent work here,
Now I believe we reached the best result for the card with the micron memory.

1- Core clock at 1425 MHz, VDD at 725 MHz, VDDCI at 750 MHz, MVDD at 1350 mv, Memory clock at 960 MHz, Power at 113 w and MH/s more than 59,

2- Core clock at 1500 MHz, VDD at 750 MHz, VDDCI at 750 MHz, MVDD at 1350 mv, Memory clock at 960 MHz, Power at 117 w and MH/s more than 60,

The only thing remains is to test the above stability for the long run.

The rig was stable overnight with Core clock at 1430 MHz, VDD at 740 MHz, VDDCI at 750 MHz, MVDD at 1350 mv, Memory clock at 950 MHz, Power at 113 w and MH/s more than 58.9.

Can we finalize the "production" power table?

 

[Mini_Me]

The rig was stable overnight with Core clock at 1430 MHz, VDD at 740 MHz, VDDCI at 750 MHz, MVDD at 1350 mv, Memory clock at 950 MHz, Power at 113 w and MH/s more than 58.9.

Can we finalize the "production" power table?

[Updated]
This is the final power table for any RX 5700 card in the kindly attached link below,

Question - GIGABYTE 5700 XT Bios mod fails

Hi, I am failing to update Gigabyte 5700 XT. The same procedure updates the BIOS on MSI cards with no problem. I follow the instructions on Igors Lab. The sign of having trouble with the card bios flash shows in GPU-Z. After flash using amdvbflash the values of GPU and memory frequencies is...

www.igorslab.de

 

[Mini_Me]

The rig was stable overnight with Core clock at 1430 MHz, VDD at 740 MHz, VDDCI at 750 MHz, MVDD at 1350 mv, Memory clock at 950 MHz, Power at 113 w and MH/s more than 58.9.

Can we finalize the "production" power table?

Done for Gigabyte RX 5700 XT GAMING,
Please check the previous post above as I updated it a couple of minutes ago.

 

[Mini_Me]

The rig was stable overnight with Core clock at 1430 MHz, VDD at 740 MHz, VDDCI at 750 MHz, MVDD at 1350 mv, Memory clock at 950 MHz, Power at 113 w and MH/s more than 58.9.

Can we finalize the "production" power table?

What would you like to do next after you finsh setting up the Gigabyte cards?

 

[AlleyCat]

What would you like to do next after you finsh setting up the Gigabyte cards?

I'd like to run the cards for a while and fix crashes.
Can you tell if a crash is due to core clock under-volt, or memory clock under-volt?

 

[AlleyCat]

I received a mod bios from Igotek who posts on the HiveOS community. Only the straps are modified. Out of curiosity, I may want to try the straps in the "final" gigabye card and test with the exact volts and frequencies.

 

[AlleyCat]

I received a mod bios from Igotek who posts on the HiveOS community. Only the straps are modified. Out of curiosity, I may want to try the straps in the "final" gigabye card and test with the exact volts and frequencies.

I am going to keep the Apple's traps. They are reliable.

 

[Mini_Me]

I received a mod bios from Igotek who posts on the HiveOS community. Only the straps are modified. Out of curiosity, I may want to try the straps in the "final" gigabye card and test with the exact volts and frequencies.

[Updated]
This is the final power table for any RX 5700 card in the kindly attached link below,

Question - GIGABYTE 5700 XT Bios mod fails

Hi, I am failing to update Gigabyte 5700 XT. The same procedure updates the BIOS on MSI cards with no problem. I follow the instructions on Igors Lab. The sign of having trouble with the card bios flash shows in GPU-Z. After flash using amdvbflash the values of GPU and memory frequencies is...

www.igorslab.de

 

[Mini_Me]

I'd like to run the cards for a while and fix crashes.
Can you tell if a crash is due to core clock under-volt, or memory clock under-volt?

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