Question GIGABYTE 5700 XT Bios mod fails

[AlleyCat]

Hi,
I am failing to update Gigabyte 5700 XT. The same procedure updates the BIOS on MSI cards with no problem. I follow the instructions on Igors Lab.

The sign of having trouble with the card bios flash shows in GPU-Z. After flash using amdvbflash the values of GPU and memory frequencies is empty. With stock bios there are Mhz frequencies.

Is there any known problems with flashing Gigabyte cards?
Any suggestions on what other forums I may ask for assistance?
Is it possible that the OEM bios is signed, and any modified bios will be rejected?
If the bios is signed, any tools to resign, or would I need to buy a card from a different vendor?

Thanks,

Alley Cat

 

[AlleyCat]

If you need it i can dump the Bios from my Card (Gigabyte RX5700XT Gaming OC 8GB).

Thank you. I saved the stock bios for both switch settings.

 

[Mini_Me]

Thank you. I saved the stock bios for both switch settings.

It seems there is no need for the Gigabyte flashtool as the attached original bios have its own flashing tool.
I am going to attach it here again for clarification.

 

[Mini_Me]

If you need it i can dump the Bios from my Card (Gigabyte RX5700XT Gaming OC 8GB).

The original bios with its own flash tool included.

 

[AlleyCat]

It seems there is no need for the Gigabyte flashtool as the attached original bios have its own flashing tool.
I am going to attach it here again for clarification.

I have both Gigabyte that I am trying to modify the bios and one Sapphire for testing. I am considering the replacement of the Gigabyte cards if I cannot modify the bios. I am disappointed with the results I am getting from the Sapphire with the modified bios. Perhaps it is the Micron memory.

Where can I find which card includes a Samsung memory?

 

[Mini_Me]

I have both Gigabyte that I am trying to modify the bios and one Sapphire for testing. I am considering the replacement of the Gigabyte cards if I cannot modify the bios. I am disappointed with the results I am getting from the Sapphire with the modified bios. Perhaps it is the Micron memory.

Where can I find which card includes a Samsung memory?

Actually both cards that you have are good, what's is needed is the right and proper adjustments,

Is your goal only mining with these cards or there is other purposes besides that?

 

[AlleyCat]

Actually both cards that you have are good, what's is needed is the right and proper adjustments,

Is your goal only mining with these cards or there is other purposes besides that?

Mining only.
I am working on the adjustments on a test rig with the Sepphire card. I am getting 55.357 MH/s with 112W reported by the card. The OS is HiveOS and the miner is Pheonix. My settings so far are Core: 1350Mhz, Core V: 765mv, Mem clock: 960 Mhz.

The memory clock at 960 is close to the cliff. At 970Mhz the card crashes.
The Core Volt cliff is around 740mv.

Best,
Alley Cat

 

[AlleyCat]

Mining only.
I am working on the adjustments on a test rig with the Sepphire card. I am getting 55.357 MH / s with 112W reported by the card. The OS is HiveOS and the miner is Pheonix. My settings so far are Core: 1350Mhz, Core V: 765mv, Mem clock: 960 Mhz.

The memory clock at 960 is close to the cliff. At 970Mhz the card crashes.
The core volt cliff is around 740mv.

Best,
Alley Cat

 

[Mini_Me]

Mining only.
I am working on the adjustments on a test rig with the Sepphire card. I am getting 55.357 MH / s with 112W reported by the card. The OS is HiveOS and the miner is Pheonix. My settings so far are Core: 1350Mhz, Core V: 765mv, Mem clock: 960 Mhz.

The memory clock at 960 is close to the cliff. At 970Mhz the card crashes.
The core volt cliff is around 740mv.

Best,
Alley Cat

Regarding the Gigabyte card, after you flash the original bios provided before you will be able to modify it and make a modified bios from it and flash it back,

Regarding the adjustments, Depending on your ambient temperature, for best stability to performance, I recommend the core clock at 1400 MHz (750 - 800) mv min, the memory at 950 MHz max (750 - 800) mv min with improved vram straps and power limit, you will achieve (57.5 - 58.5) MH/s,

I can help you with modding your bios to suit the mining purpose if you like,

By the way, your sapphire card has dual bios, which one did you modified, the silent one or the OC one?

 

[AlleyCat]

Thank you for the great instructions. I will attempt to mod the bios tomorrow on my test rig. I could certainly use some experience advise.

The mod on the Sepphire is on the OC switch mode.

What would be the difference between a mod on the OC or silence?

Alley Cat

 

[AlleyCat]

Regarding the Gigabyte card, after you flash the original bios provided before you will be able to modify it and make a modified bios from it and flash it back,

Regarding the adjustments, Depending on your ambient temperature, for best stability to performance, I recommend the core clock at 1400 MHz (750 - 800) mv min, the memory at 950 MHz max (750 - 800) mv min with improved vram straps and power limit, you will achieve (57.5 - 58.5) MH/s,

I can help you with modding your bios to suit the mining purpose if you like,

By the way, your sapphire card has dual bios, which one did you modified, the silent one or the OC one?

On my Sapphire card, with these settings, I am getting 54.45 MH/s maximum. I am using HiveOS with Pheonix miner.
My target is 59 to 60. Why I can't get the performance that I see on various channels?
The mods to the bios:
1) 1550 timing on both memory types
2) Overdrive Limits: Memory Max Clock 1050, Power Limit Min% 45
3) Power and Voltage: Min Voltage GFX 700, Min Voltage SoC 700, power limit 160
4) Fan: Fan Target Temp: 65, Stop Temp 40, Start Temp 55

My understanding is that the memory frequency timing is giving the performance increase, while the power settings are to increase efficiency.

I think I'd like to get the performance above 59MH/s and then shift focus to reduce heat (W).

If I made the correct timing modification, and I am getting less than 55MH/s, could it be the limitation of the memory type (i.e. Micron)? If this is the case, I would have to replace the card.

Any suggestions?

UPDATE #1: I am getting 58.5 MH/s on the Sapphire card.
The steps I took are:
1) Revert to stock bios
2) Modify the frequencies ONLY.
3) flash the bios
4) Run Phoenix miner on windows and monitor with Afterburner
5) Current power is 140W (too high)

My next steps are to try to increase the MH/s to over 59 by changing the Memory Frequency Maximum.

However, I have conflicting information. In MPT Memory Max Clock read from the bios image is 950. In Afterburner the Memory Clock is 1900.
1) Why these number are different? Should MPT also show 1900 as the limit and not 950?
2) How to increase the maximum memory frequency?

UPDATE #2
I think MPT has a bug. I made one modification to the OverDrive limits
1) Memory Maximum Clock 1950. MPT shows 950, and I think the is an error value.
2) With 1950, I was able to increase the memory clock in Afterburner, and I am getting 59.1 MH/s.
3) Power is 160W.

My next step is to reduce the power consumption. My target W is 110W or less.

Thanks.



thank you.

 

[AlleyCat]

UPDATE #3
I was able to reach 59MH/s 121W on Windows with the following settings:

 

[AlleyCat]

Are the settings in HiveOS and Windows Afterburner any different?

Why I crash Hive is I set the Memory Clock over 900, and in Windows I set it to 1926 and it is still holding?

 

[Mini_Me]

On my Sapphire card, with these settings, I am getting 54.45 MH/s maximum. I am using HiveOS with Pheonix miner.
My target is 59 to 60. Why I can't get the performance that I see on various channels?
The mods to the bios:
1) 1550 timing on both memory types
2) Overdrive Limits: Memory Max Clock 1050, Power Limit Min% 45
3) Power and Voltage: Min Voltage GFX 700, Min Voltage SoC 700, power limit 160
4) Fan: Fan Target Temp: 65, Stop Temp 40, Start Temp 55

My understanding is that the memory frequency timing is giving the performance increase, while the power settings are to increase efficiency.

I think I'd like to get the performance above 59MH/s and then shift focus to reduce heat (W).

If I made the correct timing modification, and I am getting less than 55MH/s, could it be the limitation of the memory type (i.e. Micron)? If this is the case, I would have to replace the card.

Any suggestions?

UPDATE #1: I am getting 58.5 MH/s on the Sapphire card.
The steps I took are:
1) Revert to stock bios
2) Modify the frequencies ONLY.
3) flash the bios
4) Run Phoenix miner on windows and monitor with Afterburner
5) Current power is 140W (too high)

My next steps are to try to increase the MH/s to over 59 by changing the Memory Frequency Maximum.

However, I have conflicting information. In MPT Memory Max Clock read from the bios image is 950. In Afterburner the Memory Clock is 1900.
1) Why these number are different? Should MPT also show 1900 as the limit and not 950?
2) How to increase the maximum memory frequency?

UPDATE #2
I think MPT has a bug. I made one modification to the OverDrive limits
1) Memory Maximum Clock 1950. MPT shows 950, and I think the is an error value.
2) With 1950, I was able to increase the memory clock in Afterburner, and I am getting 59.1 MH/s.
3) Power is 160W.

My next step is to reduce the power consumption. My target W is 110W or less.

Thanks.



thank you.

Regarding the memory clock that is showing in hive 950 MHz because it is showing the single rate of the memory clock of double rate 1900 MHz, half of 1900 = 950, therefore it is not an error or a bug of MPT,

The goal is to get the maximum MH/s however with regards to the system stability and safety for the long run,

For the Sapphire card, never modify the OC bios because it has a one time flash allowance after it will locked and we will not be able to reflash it again through normal means however for the silent bios it is the opposite, you can do whatever you like with it,

Now we are going to modify the silent bios, when it comes to mining the memory is the real factor that contribute heavily in mining therefore, we are going to fix all the parameters with the best values of performance to power and tune the memory as much as possible depending on your chip silicon lottery,

First, I would like to know have you modified the oc bios or only the silent one so far?

 

[AlleyCat]

I modified the OC. Please allow me to revert the OC to stock, and apply the modified bios to the Silent profile.

OK. I saved my modified bios to the silence mode.

Here are my settings in HiveOS and the performance in HiveOS.
I'd like to know what I need to change to achieve:
1) Increase in hash to 59.x MH/s or more...
2) Reduce the power below 120W.

It will help to learn how to tune the rig for each card

 

[AlleyCat]

Please, check the attached official Gigabyte program to reflash the original bios of your card.

Please note:
You can only update the VBIOS of the same series. This BIOS flashing requires Visual C++2008.
If your VBIOS version is:
F1, you can update F2-F9.
F10, you can update F11-F19.
F20, you can update F21-F29.

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By Windows How to update the BIOS of your graphics card ? 1. Download VGA @BIOS (http://www.gigabyte.cn/support-downloads/utility.aspx?cg=3) 2. Execute VGA @BIOS after installation 3. After clicking Flash, select the BIOS file you want to update and update 4. Wait for the update to complete and reboot How to backup the existing BIOS file ? After clicking BACKUP VGA BIOS, select the path to backup. By DOS How to update the BIOS of your graphics card ? 1. Decompress the downloaded VGA BIOS compressed file atBIOS.zip to abootable USB flash drive or CD-ROM. The following steps take the USB flash drive as an example. 2. Restart your computer and hit enter to select the USB flash drive from the boot menu. 3. In DOS mode, switch the command line path to the location of the flashtool by typing: cd/ ATITool 4. To update the BIOS type: Atiflash.exe -i and click Enter to check for the gpu drive number. 5. Now type: Atiflash.exe -p drive number - f bios file name.bin and click enter. 5. After the update is over, please restart your computer to complete the update of the VGA BIOS. How to back up the existing BIOS file ? If you need to back up the BIOS file, then type: Atiflash.exe -s name.bin and press Enter. Why can't the BIOS of my graphics card be updated to the latest version on the website ? GIGABYTE graphics cards have different BIOS series under the same model name. Generally speaking, the BIOS versions of Gigabyte graphics cards belong to the same series from F1 to F9, and from F11 to F19 are also belong to the same series, and so on. Therefore, if the BIOS version of your graphics card is F3 and F4/F10 is available on the website, the BIOS of your graphics card will be updated to F4 instead of F10.

OK. I am going to focus on changing the Gigabyte bios.
1) On the first attempt, using the @BIOS application, the software cannot see the card.
2) Going to CMD Run as Admin, an attempt to flash the R57XTGAMING-OC-8GD.BIN image returns an error.

 

[Mini_Me]

OK. I am going to focus on changing the Gigabyte bios.
1) On the first attempt, using the @BIOS application, the software cannot see the card.
2) Going to CMD Run as Admin, an attempt to flash the R57XTGAMING-OC-8GD.BIN image returns an error.

No need for the @BIOS tool as this tool was verified that it does not support Navi 10 cards,

After you extract GV-R57XTGAMING-OC-8GD-FA0.zip, run GV-R57XTGAMING OC-8GD.exe as Administrative and continue from there.

 

[AlleyCat]

No need for the @BIOS tool as this tool was verified that it does not support Navi 10 cards,

After you extract GV-R57XTGAMING-OC-8GD-FA0.zip, run .archivetempGV-R57XTGAMING OC-8GD.exe as Administrative and continue from there.

I had to uninstall the AMD drivers with a removal tool. Once I removed the drivers, I was able to flash the bios using the amdvbflash.

 

[Mini_Me]

I had to uninstall the AMD drivers with a removal tool. Once I removed the drivers, I was able to flash the bios using the amdvbflash.

Very well, now is the card returned to work normally like before?
And I already updated the post with the attached bios file.

https://www.igorslab.de/community/threads/gigabyte-5700-xt-bios-mod-fails.3304/post-78909

 

[AlleyCat]

Very well, now the card is returned to work normally like before.
I already updated the post with the attached bios file.

I have a few stability issues that the card crashed using the same settings as the Sapphire. I guess I will have to test the Gigabyte cards and find their own settings.

I do have a couple of tuning questions.
1) How do you suggest I modify for reducing the power lower than 133W? You can see below the miner data, and the OD settings.
2) Please look at picture below. If I found inWindows that the maximum hash rate is 1926Hz, is this correct setting 1926/2=963 (I put 970).

Thanks.
AlleyCat

 

[AlleyCat]

Alright, we are going to make a universal mining profile for the both cards, we are going to start with the Gigabyte card,

1- Reflash the card with official bios,

2- Rename the R57XTGAMING-OC-8GD.BIN to R57XTGAMING-OC-8GD.ROM,

3- Run the MorePowerTool program as an Administrative, Click Load and select the R57XTGAMING-OC-8GD.ROM or an amdvbflash backup bios, after that follow as below:
- Under Features tab enable all the overdive features,
- Under Overdrive Limits tab, set:
GFX Maximum Clock 1400 MHz
Memory Maximum Clock 1000 MHz
Under Power and Voltages, set:
Maximum Voltage GFX 850 mv
Maximum Voltage SoC 1200 mv
Minimum Voltage GFX 750 mv
Minimum Voltage SoC 750 mv
Power Limit GPU 150 W
TDC Limit GFX 138 A
TDC Limit SoC 12 A
- Under Frequency tap, set:
GFX Maximum 1400 MHz
Memory DPM 3 - 950 MHz
- Under Fan tab, set:
Fan Acoustic Limit 1950 RPM
Fan Throttling 2400 RPM

After that click Save to get .MPT file,

3- Run the RedBiosEditor program as an Administrative, Click Load and select the R57XTGAMING-OC-8GD.ROM or an amdvbflash backup bios, after that follow as below:
- Under PowerPlay, Load MPT File and select the .MPT that was prepared before,
- Under VRAM Timings, click on the rectangle with (1500 or 1550) MHz and change the tCL to 14 under DRAMTiming1 and tREF to 12000 under DRAMTiming12 for MT61K256M32 Micron and tCL to 14 and tREF to 9000 for K4Z80325BC Samsung and after that copy the (1500 or 1550) strap to the rest of the straps after it,
4- Click on Save to get the .ROM modified bios file,
5- Now Flash the modified bios and restart.

Now you can use HiveOs or MSI Afterburner to tune your card as here it depends on your chip quality and silicon lottery, start with maximum values of 1400 MHz 850 mv core and 950 MHz Memory,
Above is for gigabyte card only,

Please do update me whenever it is possible,
Best Regards.

This is GOLD. Thank you!
I will follow the details and will look for any differences between my settings and your values.
I will report tomorrow.