Question GIGABYTE 5700 XT Bios mod fails

[AlleyCat]

Hi,
I am failing to update Gigabyte 5700 XT. The same procedure updates the BIOS on MSI cards with no problem. I follow the instructions on Igors Lab.

The sign of having trouble with the card bios flash shows in GPU-Z. After flash using amdvbflash the values of GPU and memory frequencies is empty. With stock bios there are Mhz frequencies.

Is there any known problems with flashing Gigabyte cards?
Any suggestions on what other forums I may ask for assistance?
Is it possible that the OEM bios is signed, and any modified bios will be rejected?
If the bios is signed, any tools to resign, or would I need to buy a card from a different vendor?

Thanks,

Alley Cat

 

[haissam]

How stable are the Gigabyte cards at 725mv core? Have you run them for a whole day without a crash?

didn't test yet, just get this number from this video

 

[Mini_Me]

How stable are the Gigabyte cards at 725mv core? Have you run them for a whole day without a crash?

Please try these settings for PhoenixMiner below,

-amd -acm -gt (run auto-tune) -mode 1 -clNew 1 -clf 0 -lidag 1

For HiveOS,
Core clock at 1400 MHz, VDD at 800 mv,
Memory clock at (950 or 910) MHz, VDDCI at 800 mv, MVDD at 1350 mv,

And please do update whenever it is possible.

 

[Calathia]

Excellent work you have done here and thank you very much for your kind help,

I am awaiting Calathia for the Feature Control photo of MSI RX 5700 Gaming non XT,

After that we check and compare between the Feature Control of the non XT and XT version for any differences that may lead us to the reason that make the bios of non XT consume less power than than the bios of XT version.

Unfortunately I cannot take GPU apart from my rig with HiveOS. But I do have the modded bios file in my windows. Can I get the needed values from that bios file somehow?

 

[Mini_Me]

Unfortunately I cannot take GPU apart from my rig with HiveOS. But I do have the modded bios file in my windows. Can I get the needed values from that bios file somehow?

It is totally fine, please do not worry at all,
Your update is very enough,
I am now reaching a couple of RX 5700 non XT owner and requesting from them the photo for the Feature Control,
I will update if we find something new and beneficial whenever it is possible.

 

[megabytesmining]

Maybe missed something. I use ATI and flash the provided bin/ROM file from the first page, it flashes no problem. But I'd I modify it after and flash via ATI says there is a problem. I tried the other *.exe program says complete/reboot but then there is no change of the ROM.

I am being careful because only one GPU

 

[haissam]

--amd -acm -mi 1 -gt 81 -mode 1 -clKernel 1 -clNew 1 -clf 0 -lidag 1 -openclLocalWork 64 -openclGlobalMultiplier 2049

-openclGlobalMultiplier 2049

50% Incorrect Shares
but my xt 63MH and non xt 61MH

 

[Mini_Me]

-openclGlobalMultiplier 2049

50% Incorrect Shares
but my xt 63MH and non xt 61MH

My apologies, please try the below
Decrease the -openclLocalWork by 8 and check until you reach the default value of 32,
-openclGlobalMultiplier 2048

 

[0Lucifer0]

i've been able to force flash my rx 5700 xt with a 5600 xt bios - result was 41MH/s for 80w
wonder if it's possible to use some thing on that bios like MPT/straps and to see what happen when you put them on rx 5700 xt

 

[megabytesmining]

I take it I'm supposed to force flash with amdvbflash instead of the other two tools in that zip?

 

[Mini_Me]

Maybe missed something. I use ATI and flash the provided bin/ROM file from the first page, it flashes no problem. But I'd I modify it after and flash via ATI says there is a problem. I tried the other *.exe program says complete/reboot but then there is no change of the ROM.

I am being careful because only one GPU

Please follow the kindly attached link below and read thoroughly and carefully,

Question - GIGABYTE 5700 XT Bios mod fails

Hi, I am failing to update Gigabyte 5700 XT. The same procedure updates the BIOS on MSI cards with no problem. I follow the instructions on Igors Lab. The sign of having trouble with the card bios flash shows in GPU-Z. After flash using amdvbflash the values of GPU and memory frequencies is...

www.igorslab.de

 

[Mini_Me]

i've been able to force flash my rx 5700 xt with a 5600 xt bios - result was 41MH/s for 80w
wonder if it's possible to use some thing on that bios like MPT/straps and to see what happen when you put them on rx 5700 xt

That is something outstanding,

 

[AlleyCat]

Please try these settings below,

--amd -acm -mi 1 -gt 81 -mode 1 -clKernel 1 -clNew 1 -clf 0 -lidag 1 -openclLocalWork 64 -openclGlobalMultiplier 2048

Core clock at 1400 MHz, VDD at 800 mv,
Memory clock at (950 or 900) MHz, VDDCI at 800 mv, MVDD at 1350 mv,

And please do update me whenever it is possible.

According to the Hive community, there is no benefit for using the OpenclLocalWork.
I found that different cards have different gt value. Therefore I leave out the gt switch, to allow for auto-detect for best performance.
The clKernel is also redundant, as the Phoenix miner selects kernel 1 by default, and I could not find any other kernel option with HiveOS.

See further information at https://forum.hiveos.farm/t/pheonix-miner-invalid-shares/17714/4

Best regards,
AlleyCat

 

[AlleyCat]

-openclGlobalMultiplier 2049

50% Incorrect Shares
but my xt 63MH and non xt 61MH

I don't use the option openclGlobalMultiplier.

See comments at https://forum.hiveos.farm/t/pheonix-miner-invalid-shares/17714/4

 

[AlleyCat]

It is totally fine, please do not worry at all,
Your update is very enough,
I am now reaching a couple of RX 5700 non XT owner and requesting from them the photo for the Feature Control,
I will update if we find something new and beneficial whenever it is possible.

I am most interested in your findings.

I received an AMD 5700 XT Reference card.
I did the Power Table and APple Straps, and out of the gate the runs 56.9MH/s at 99W. WOW. What a difference in the card's engineering. I will search for deals on reference cards, and other "better-engineered cards like the Gigabyte Aorus, or Sapphire Nitro+.

The settings with the AMD Reference are: Core 1400/800mv, mem 910MHz, 800 VDD/800 VDDCI/1330 MVDD.
Can you suggest configuration options for the reference card?

Best regards,
AlleyCat

 

[Mini_Me]

According to the Hive community, there is no benefit for using the OpenclLocalWork.
I found that different cards have different gt value. Therefore I leave out the gt switch, to allow for auto-detect for best performance.
The clKernel is also redundant, as the Phoenix miner selects kernel 1 by default, and I could not find any other kernel option with HiveOS.

See further information at https://forum.hiveos.farm/t/pheonix-miner-invalid-shares/17714/4

Best regards,
AlleyCat

This option sometimes work and most of time does not work, I believe it depends on one area,
I am curious if we set the value of openclLocalWork from the default 32 to 40 or 48 or 56 and check the results.

The -clKernel 1 is for older versions of PhoenixMiner before 5.0.

 

[0Lucifer0]

Some new thing i found out:
So my sapphire pulse rx 5700 xt bios version was

017.001.000.068.000000

the only 5700 i found was not having same number so i manually edited this one in hxd

Sapphire RX 5700 VBIOS

8 GB GDDR6, 1400 MHz GPU, 1750 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

after a successfull forced flash:
53MH 92w
will try to get the XT back using red bios editor

 

[megabytesmining]

I experimented a bit with these numbers, butni think I was also playing a bit with the multiplier as well. This was on a 5600xt first one gave about %10 rejection and second was 80%.
I believe my local work was 48, either due to only 6 gig cards. And I think my multiplier was 8k'ish for efficiency...

Speaking of which I also had same issue I think with the 'Mech' edition of the 5600xt. Could the same be done if this is signed, how do we tell? Because of the fact flash a modded bios it bricks?

 

[0Lucifer0]

Some new thing i found out:
So my sapphire pulse rx 5700 xt bios version was

017.001.000.068.000000

the only 5700 i found was not having same number so i manually edited this one in hxd
Anhang anzeigen 6861

Sapphire RX 5700 VBIOS

8 GB GDDR6, 1400 MHz GPU, 1750 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

after a successfull forced flash:
53MH 92w
will try to get the XT back using red bios editor
Anhang anzeigen 6862

using those straps (didn't apply 1500 to the bottom) I'm getting 55.281MH/s for 93w

Memory Clock - tREF
1000 MHz - 3900 (Samsung & Micron)
1250 MHz - 4875 (Samsung & Micron)
1550 MHz - 6045 (Samsung & Micron)
1750 MHz - 6825 (Micron only)
1800 MHz - 7020 (Samsung & Micron)
1875 MHz - 7315 (Micron only)
2000 MHz - 7800 (Samsung & Micron)
2250 MHz - 8775 (Samsung only)

 

[Mini_Me]

I am most interested in your findings.

I received an AMD 5700 XT Reference card.
I did the Power Table and APple Straps, and out of the gate the runs 56.9MH/s at 99W. WOW. What a difference in the card's engineering. I will search for deals on reference cards, and other "better-engineered cards like the Gigabyte Aorus, or Sapphire Nitro+.

The settings with the AMD Reference are: Core 1400/800mv, mem 910MHz, 800 VDD/800 VDDCI/1330 MVDD.
Can you suggest configuration options for the reference card?

Best regards,
AlleyCat

I believe the best RX 5700 card for mining is the reference RX 5700 non XT card, especially when it comes their price which is cheaper than the others with almost the same mining performance and low power consumption and no restrictions,

If your reference card memory is Samsung then start with the below settings,

Core clock @ VDD
1500 MHz @ 825 or 830 mv
Memory clock @ VDDCI & MVDD
920 or 925 or 930 MHz @ 820 or 825 or 830 mv & 1360 or 1365 mv

Micron
Core clock @ VDD
1430 or 1435 or 1440 MHz @ 800 mv
Memory clock @ VDDCI & MVDD
950 or 960 MHz @ 800 or 825 mv & 1350 or 1365 mv

After that start reducing the clocks and voltages until reaching the desired performance of MH/s to power Watt ratio while maintaining the stability and safety of the system.

 

[0Lucifer0]

using those straps (didn't apply 1500 to the bottom) I'm getting 55.281MH/s for 93w

Memory Clock - tREF
1000 MHz - 3900 (Samsung & Micron)
1250 MHz - 4875 (Samsung & Micron)
1550 MHz - 6045 (Samsung & Micron)
1750 MHz - 6825 (Micron only)
1800 MHz - 7020 (Samsung & Micron)
1875 MHz - 7315 (Micron only)
2000 MHz - 7800 (Samsung & Micron)
2250 MHz - 8775 (Samsung only)

If applying 1500 to the bottom before 57.414 => 94w