Question GIGABYTE 5700 XT Bios mod fails

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Hi,
I am failing to update Gigabyte 5700 XT. The same procedure updates the BIOS on MSI cards with no problem. I follow the instructions on Igors Lab.

The sign of having trouble with the card bios flash shows in GPU-Z. After flash using amdvbflash the values of GPU and memory frequencies is empty. With stock bios there are Mhz frequencies.

Is there any known problems with flashing Gigabyte cards?
Any suggestions on what other forums I may ask for assistance?
Is it possible that the OEM bios is signed, and any modified bios will be rejected?
If the bios is signed, any tools to resign, or would I need to buy a card from a different vendor?

Thanks,

Alley Cat
 
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Aleks911 hat gesagt. :
[USER = 5105] [USER = 5105] @Mini_Me [/ USER] [/ USER] After a few hours I can say that the modded rom for Pulse BE is the same as the one before.

At this point I think the system is working well:
1) 57 MH / s on all micron cards
2) 56.5 on all samsung cards
3) 105w on micron cards (software)
4) 100w on samsung cards (software)
5) 75 deg MEM on samsung cards at 50% fan
6) 84 deg MEM on micron cards at 50-80% fans
7) core temps very cool-50 ish

All of this on apple straps, 780mv core, 1380mhz core, 900-910mhz memory and slightly undervolted memory.

I hear what you said about memory undervolting dangers, but it is the only way for me to keep memory temp in control. Memory temp goes up at stock values so I keep it at 800 and 1310 respectively.

Pretty stable, constant moving did not allow for a true stability test (for example, my rx 570 rig never drops, never-it is only cut by an internet or electricity outage).
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Are those Over clock settings on a 5700xt? I am going to begin the process of fine tuning my cards this after noon
 
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Yes, I have been trying that when you first wrote the post about long term problems with undervolting.

The results with those settings are as follows:
1) same hashrate
2) same stability
3) larger temperature for Micron
4) larger power consumption for all cards
 
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I may be repeating my self, but I am not familiar with the terms MVDD and VDDCI. I am using Windows and Overdrive N tool to OC my cards. Do the above values directly corolate?
 
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Aleks911 hat gesagt. :
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those are beautiful numbers!!! and that is with the Apple threads? also, just checking that for me.. in Overdrive N tool I am looking at a core of 1380, power of 780, and memory of 1820. Correct? I am using windows. If I need to use hive... then I will have to make that change.
 
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Yes. MVDD and VDDCI are memory voltage and memory controller voltage. Yes, 1820 MHz.

I am a newbie on Hive, and it is a Godsend. Only got it in order to flash the bios(could not in win).
Windows wouldn't run the miner, then wouldn't flash the cards, then wouldn't run the driver, then after I fixed everything it would crash immediately. Also, unlike RX 570, once the miner crashes it required a system reboot.
 
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Aleks911 hat gesagt. :
Yes. MVDD and VDDCI are memory voltage and memory controller voltage. Yes, 1820 MHz.

I am a newbie on Hive, and it is a Godsend. Only got it in order to flash the bios (could not in win).
Windows wouldn't run the miner, then wouldn't flash the cards, then wouldn't run the driver, then after I fixed everything it would crash immediately. Also, unlike RX 570, once the miner crashes it required a system reboot.
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I will give this a go with my cards when I get home. Those are beautiful numbers. over 55 mh, cool cards, and under 120W a card? hell yes sign me up. the only number I dont think I can do, is the VDDCI. I do not think Overclock N tool has the option, or I dont know where it is. Unless I can set a max in More power tool.
 
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You don't have to, MVDD and VDDCI offer a modest reduction in power usage and a very modest reduction in temp.
Also please note, this is in a cold room with windows partially open to create a draft. Come summer, I will need a fan system. In my work room, some fans were up to 90% with memory at 90 degrees.
Also, my 13 card rig is hotter.
Also, wall consumption is higher, which is normal. This doesn't account for the riser power + PSU efficiency.

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Aleks911 hat gesagt. :
You don't have to, MVDD and VDDCI offer a modest reduction in power usage and a very modest reduction in temp.
Also please note, this is in a cold room with windows partially open to create a draft. Come summer, I will need a fan system. In my work room, some fans were up to 90% with memory at 90 degrees.
So, my 13 card rig is hotter.
Also, wall consumption is higher, which is normal. This doesn't account for the riser power + PSU efficiency.

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ah okay. I understand. I will give those values a go on one of my cards and see how it goes. I have my cards set at 750/1350/1820 right now and am getting 55 mh, but I am using a ton of power for some reason. It might be my PSU. I have a riseless MB. Would you say this bios mod helps a lot? Mine are just modded by copping 1500 down, on each mem.
 
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Yes, I gained 2 MH/s between 1500 copied up the mem speed(or down visually) and the apple inc straps. The power thing, I don't know. What is a riseless MB? Gamer 3xPCIE MB? In my 1 gpu tests that should be much better on power.
IMHO risers are crap and they are very power hungry.
 
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Aleks911 hat gesagt. :
Yes, I gained 2 MH / s between 1500 copied up the mem speed (or down visually) and the apple inc straps. The power thing, I don't know. What is a riseless MB? Gamer 3xPCIE MB? In my 1 gpu tests that should be much better on power.
IMHO risers are crap and they are very power hungry.
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Thats awesome to hear. The riseless motherboards are like server cases...see attached. So besides flashing with apple straps, and applying the above OC's any other steps I need to be aware of? Im glad to hear it was much better on power with these mods. because right now I am at 6 cards, 330mh, and about 1050 watts. Granted my case runs pretty heavy at around 200ws
 

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If that is wall power, that is consumption in line with my wall consumption. I have:
Rig 1: Biostar BTC Pro, 1x Seasonic 1300W gold
6+system at 860W
Rig 2: Asus B250 Mining, 2x Seasonic 1300 W gold
7+system at 990W and 6 without system at 870W.

Same RAM, same CPU.
Why the Asus is using more-I don't know. It makes no sense.

Could you please give a link for a MB like that?

Nope, no other steps. I am using SSD now, but it worked fine on a USB flash drive too. You can test hive with a flash drive in 5 minutes.
 
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Aleks911 hat gesagt. :
If that is wall power, that is consumption in line with my wall consumption. I have:
Rig 1: Biostar BTC Pro, 1x Seasonic 1300W gold
6 + system at 860W
Rig 2: Asus B250 Mining, 2x Seasonic 1300 W gold
7 + system at 990W and 6 without system at 870W.

Same RAM, same CPU.
Why the Asus is using more - I don't know. It makes no sense.

Could you please give a link for a MB like that?

Nope, no other steps. I am using SSD now, but it worked fine on a USB flash drive too. You can test hive with a flash drive in 5 minutes.
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yea you being at 6+ system at 860 watts is way better than me. I need to get lowered, so we will see. I use windows so I will see how it goes since I cant input all the settings you did. Also, heres a link for a riseless Mb


What kind of PSU do you have? gold? platnium? silver?
 
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I started testing power at the wall, and there are significant differences between HiveOS and the wall.
The Nitro+ reports 94W in HiveOS, and when I removed it from the system, the power at the wall dropped by 148W.

I can't figure this out. Here are a couple of assumptions:
1) Perhaps the GPU & Riser take actually 148W
2) The CPU is adjusting and reducing power when I remove a GPU from the system. I removed all connectors and cables, including the riser power.

The test system configurations:
2 x 5700XT GPUs, 1 x XFX III, and 1 x Nitro+

Total System power at the wall, with both cards: 324W
Remove the Nitro+, total power on the wall: 172W (Nitro+ = 324-172=152W (HiveOS reports 94W)
Return the Nitro+, and remove the XFX, the total power on the wall: 174W (XFX = 324-174 = 150W (HiveOS reports 117W)

Based on this initial test I realize that there is no value to the power numbers reported by HiveOS. I suspected that there may be some inaccuracy, perhaps due to the quality of different temp sensors, but I never guessed the differences are that large.

By the way, the system idle without cards runs at 20W at the wall.
 
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wow I did not relize it was that significant. I will test with my cards and see what I get. I am also using red team miner. not phoneix
 
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@Mini_Me I want to reduce the variables of power testing. I will attempt to deduct the power of the risers. I will one of the cards into another test PC with and without risers.

Is there a way to fix the power consumption at the motherboard + CPU?
 
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AlleyCat hat gesagt. :
@Mini_Me I want to reduce the variables of power testing. I will attempt to deduct the power of the risers. I will one of the cards into another test PC with and without risers.

Is there a way to fix the power consumption at the motherboard + CPU?
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Certainly we may be able to reduce the power for the cpu and ram and motherboard, depending on their models,
what is your cpu and ram models,

By the way the power consumption for your motherboard + cpu + RAM approximately equal to 50 watt.
 
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Yep @AlleyCat I can confirm these numbers, my 6xpure card part of the rig uses around 880 W, so that would be around 145 W per card. Hive(and gpuz in windows) show around 104 W. When power in hive rises by 10W, at the wall it is about 15 W.
My Gold PSU is at about 90% efficiency. So the actual card usage is at around 130 W. So I'd say the system reports only outer power connectors and the riser uses around another 30 W.
 
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