Cooling Fans Reviews

Phanteks T30 Case Fan Review – Speed Monster on silent Soles

Disclaimer: The following article is machine translated from the original German, and has not been edited or checked for errors. Thank you for understanding!

Fan measurement chamber and claim

And since there is currently no source that offers realistic and usable data, even in comparison, we have invested a lot of time and money and simply developed our own fan measuring station with the advice of a cooling unit manufacturer and then calibrated it. Here the colleague Pascal Mouchel has done a great job and the result as the model “Sarcophagus I” can be seen in the meantime. The heavy and solid body made of thick MDF boards is screwed, glued and sound-insulated. How it all works and what we can and cannot measure in the end, you will learn in this article.

By now most of it has materialized really nicely, also with a lot of good feedback from the community and technical help from some industry partners. Of course, what we can measure from now on only meets semi-professional requirements, even though all measuring instruments have been calibrated in an elaborate and cost-intensive way. But that’s enough for all areas of what concerns the PC self-construction and -conversion. Of course, we are not a standardization company or the TÜV, but we try to measure everything as accurately as possible, which still remains within a reasonably affordable range.

 

Measuring chamber with sound level control (measurement takes place separately)

 

A much simplified version with a long tube instead of the chamber would have been much cheaper, but it is so inaccurate due to the design that the values can only be considered as a rough estimate with many errors. The pressure drop is immense and a serious sound level measurement is simply impossible due to the resonance body thus created. Values below approx. 30 CFM can hardly be evaluated meaningfully and are then no longer particularly close to reality.

Tests as case fan and on radiators

Currently, there is always the question of what characteristics such a 120 or 140 mm fan really has. Not every model is suitable for all radiator thicknesses and many a supposed powerhouse loses so much pressure on radiators that it can hardly be called suitable. The data on volume flow (“throughput”) and static pressure in the data sheets are of no help if something works well on a slim radiator and fails completely on a 45 mm radiator.

In the picture we can see the middle partition between the two chambers, which supports the fan and also the radiator. Decoupling is of course very important, and we were fortunate to have expert help in calculating the volume for the chambers. Each of the chambers is also expediently lined with nubby foam and designed in terms of material technology so that there are hardly any disturbing influences.

The “honeycomb” behind the fan was recommended to us by Black Noise and the cooling manufacturer. This means that all coolers are equally well integrated, because each has a different exit angle and this is exactly what can be compensated for. However, due to the honeycomb, there is no tear-off edge and the airflow is directed directly to the outlet.

Radiators and fans are decoupled and screwed down with their own clamping device. On the picture you can see very nicely the improvised clamp with thick washers and insulation material as a base. The control is done by an Aquaero from Aqua Computer, which we bought, so we can control and test the fans by voltage (DC) or by PWM. Both are needed, because many fans, some people don’t know, can’t be brought to the lower and upper limits of the speed range with pure voltage regulation and also show other anomalies, about which we will write something at the appropriate place.

Volume flow

We measure the volume flow at the outlet of the second chamber where the air is blown out. This range is covered relatively accurately by comparative measurements in the measurement set-up of the refrigeration partner, so that our testo 410i now delivers quite reliable results to the electronic measurement data acquisition, which correspond quite well with the reference data of the professional measurement. What is important here is not the price of the equipment, but the appropriate positioning and the exact calibration with series of comparative measurements.

Static pressure

The measurement of the static pressure is carried out as usual as a differential pressure measurement. For this purpose, the special “bowl” is clamped on so that it closes airtight. Here too, of course, measurements were taken with borrowed, professional equipment and time-consuming calibrations were carried out. For this measurement we also use the 510i, a device we purchased ourselves from testo, and also collect the data wirelessly. Since many try to copy in the meantime, the angles in the 3D-graphics and also on the following two photos are of course not completely correct, because without knowledge of the exact dimensions of the funnel a copy is virtually senseless and it works also only in a quite small tolerance range really completely exactly. We have also made comparative measurement series for this once again. In practice, the whole thing looks like the two pictures below.

The installation is trouble-free and the pressure receptacle now also closes perfectly thanks to a special seal. The rest is just a matter of calibration, which we also did again. It’s unlikely to get much more accurate with semi-professional methods. However, especially in printing, mistakes are quickly possible, which above all are not immediately recognizable. Even if the deviations are small, we will still measure all previous fans again and prepare them for the database.

 

 

Noise emission

Measuring the noise level is a bit tricky, but works quite well in the evening hours at the measurement location. We decided to use dBA or dBC because values below one sone can hardly be measured reliably with still affordable and calibrated equipment and the software conversions of various software programs tend to confuse and become inaccurate in this low range. I’d rather use dBA then, especially since most people can do something with it. The measuring distance is 50 cm from the centre axis of the fan inlet.

We take two approaches to these measurements. For quick and plausibility tests we use a Voltcraft SL 451, which we calibrated according to ISO and whose microphone we placed decoupled from the body. The data acquisition takes place outside the measuring chamber. The Voltcraft SL 451 was made available to us by Conrad Elektronik. It is also the only component not acquired by ourselves. All other measuring instruments including accessories and electronics were purchased by us or provided from private stocks.

Our own purchases include a calibrated measurement microphone with XLR connector and low-noise USB interface. Measurements are taken in the evening and night hours in rural areas, so that one can already be quite satisfied with a basic level of below 26 dB(A). Since everything will be above this anyway during the measurement setup with a distance of 50 cm, this should not be a problem.

We also took the feedback from the community and evaluated the frequency band for each measurement, so you not only get the SPL values (sound pressure) in dB(A), but also a nice frequency analysis that helps to describe the sound character perfectly. Bearing or motor noise, vibrations or the tearing noise on the rotor – everything becomes mercilessly visible.

We will not go into certain details and approaches in this article, because there is still some foreign know-how in this structure and some things would probably be too far for the normal consumer. If you are interested and would like to build something like this, you are of course welcome to contact us. This also applies to all those who would like to contribute suggestions and tips, because we are still at the very beginning and can still correct or expand.

New metrics and graphics

Apart from the fact that we now also record the minimum and maximum values for the flowing currents and the power consumption, we have fulfilled two further wishes of the readers and extended the measurement series in this respect. In order to be able to assess the fans really objectively, we first graduated the resulting volume flow and measured the sound pressure level in many individual steps. The result for a fan then looks like this in comparison to the reference fan:

We see that the increase in the sound pressure level of our test fan is not as even compared to the reference, but the level is still lower at a comparable volume flow. In addition, the fan tested and compared here also delivers a significantly higher airflow due to a 50% higher maximum speed, which in the end is bought with a similar sound pressure level as the reference fan, but whose performance is significantly lower.

And because we just wrote about the rotational speeds, there are also new comparative graphics for this, at the express request of the reader, by showing which rotational speeds are necessary to achieve a certain volume flow. In practice, we can now also see where the dip in the upper graph comes from in terms of volume, because there is a speed range (rather a smaller window) where the fan doesn’t perform so perfectly and spins higher to reach the desired CFM than a more even rise in the curve would have led us to expect.

 

What we measure and how the result looks like, you can see on the next page by means of an exemplary selected fan, which however is anything but our reference. That’s exactly what we are still looking for 🙂

Test setup  
Housing / measuring chamber Two-chamber measuring set-up with sound insulation, fully air-conditioned room
Volume flow and flow velocity testo 410i (calibrated)
Differential pressure measurement testo 510i (calibrated)
Sound level measurement Measuring microphone Class 2 and USB interface, Smaart 7, Voltcraft SL 451 (Conrad, permanent rental, calibrated),
Speed control and fan control Aqua Computer Aquaero 6 Pro
Commissioning March / April 2021

 

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pintie

Veteran

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Danke für den Test.
Die neuen Diagramme sind super.

Und der Lüfter im Speziellen ist mal eine Alternative zu Noctua. Wobei die ja auch den NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM hätten.

Wenn man sich was wünschen darf wären das mehr 14cm test.
ganz oben auf meiner Liste den Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM

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vonXanten

Urgestein

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Habt ihr das auch mal getestet? :ROFLMAO: ;)

Interessanter Lüfter, scheint ja mal eine gute alternative ohne Lichtorgel zu sein für alles was nicht Silent sein muss aber ein wenig Durchzug braucht.
Die neuen Grafiken sind sehr schick und bringen einen guten Überblick zwischen dem getesteten Exemplar und der Reverenz.

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Igor Wallossek

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Ja, sogar mit den eigenen Fingern. Echt aua. :P

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Deridex

Urgestein

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Sorry aber da kann ich nur sagen: Haha

Den "Test" mit dem Gemüse müsst ihr mal mit den in der Industrie üblichen Pabst oder Sanyo Lüftern machen :)

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RedF

Urgestein

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Igor Wallossek

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Pabst habe ich hier mit einer Möhre mal plattgemacht. Zwei Schnitte hat er wirklich sauber geschafft, dann war die Karrotte stärker und es steckte fest :D

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Pascal TM-Custom

Urgestein

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Unfreiwillig getestet beim einspannen des Lüfters meinte mein kleiner Finger er müsse da Mal reinlangen 😂 hab dann Mal ganz kurz laut geflucht.

Was jetzt witzig erscheint wird nicht mehr witzig langt da ausversehen ein Kleinkind rein. Dann ist der Finger zu 100% gebrochen. Da es ja auch Gehäuse gibt mit offenen Aufbau.

Deshalb haben wir dem Hersteller darum gebeten er solle einen Hinweis draufpacken.

Sollte man jetzt wirklich die Biester mit 3000RPM berltreiben wäre ein Gitter vor dem Roter eine Empfehlung besonders wenn man Kids hat.

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v3nom

Veteran

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Genialer Lüfter.

Kleiner Fehler noch im vorletzten Satz:

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Guest

Interessantes Teil. Aber auch nicht billig. Sunon war ja schon vor 20 Jahren teilweise ein Geheimtipp oder jedenfalls Budget-Tipp.
Vermutlich helfen die 30 mm Tiefe durchaus. Wirklich erstaunlich finde ich, dass er bei den satten 3000 Umdrehungen dann noch nicht mal irre laut ist. Faszinierend.
Allerdings dann wohl doch eher nichts für mich. Meine Drehzahlband ist dann doch eher bei 500-800-max 1000 zu suchen und ich brauche bei meinem Gehäuseselbstbau von 2004 einfach eine perfekte Entkopplung der Lüfter vergleichbar zu den aktuell immer noch laufenden Noiseblocker Multiframe, sonst gibt es ordentlich Vibrationsradau. Die MF-Lüfter sind "komischerweise" aber langsam am Ende ihres Lebens - nach 8-10 Jahren? Auch respektabel. Dass er kein RGB-Lüfter ist, ist für mich als alten Hasen eher ein Pluspunkt ... .
Aber 3000 Umdrehlungen, huiuiui :D.

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Besterino

Urgestein

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Nur mal so: ich (emp)finde bei meinen 140er Noctua Chromax in meinem Tisch 300RPM "leise" bzw. nahezu unhörbar, 400RPM "ok" und 500RPM bereits deutlich hörbar.

Ich hätte durchaus Interesse an "dickeren", wenn sie denn bei langsamen Drehzahlen für mehr Airflow sorgen. Wenn's auf die Lautstärke nicht ankommt, dreh ich meine 3000er Industrials auf (anderes Gehäuse/System ;)) - die pusten im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes alles weg, was mir bisher so untergekommen ist und lassen sich sogar auf erträgliche Lautstärken auf um die 500RPM drosseln.

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Martin Gut

Urgestein

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Man merkt, dass ihr nie Modellfliegen als Hobby gehabt habt. Da passiert das jedem und man gewöhnt sich relativ schnell daran vorsichtig zu sein. Ein Motor mit ein paar hundert Watt und Karbonpropeller wirken noch etwas stärker. Von Helis reden wir lieber nicht.

Na ja, auch da lernt es nicht jeder. :rolleyes:

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Igor Wallossek

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Dann landet der Finger halt in einer Grafikkarte. :D

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Pascal TM-Custom

Urgestein

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Das Ding ist das ich immer die Lüfter umgebaut hab in der Kammer egal ob die laufen oder nicht weil pffft 2000RPM macht ja nix aber die 3000 mit kleinem Finger war dann doch mal kurz eine ahaaaa und verfluchte schei..... Moment.

Einem Erwachsenen kümmert das net aber haben ja auch die kleinen Frösche eventuell um uns rennen und die stecken gerne ihre Finger dort rein wo sie es net sollen. Daaaaa kann dann mehr passieren.

Was mich sehr überrascht hat das der Hinweis von Phanteks sehr gut aufgenommen wurde und direkt gehandelt wird. Ein Warnung in Form eines Aufklebers reicht ja schon.

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Pascal TM-Custom

Urgestein

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genau erst abgeschnitten vom T30 dann nochmal zerkleinert auf der Grafikkarte und gleich gebacken zum verzehr 🤣

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vonXanten

Urgestein

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und mit ein wenig Käse überbacken... 🥴

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Igor Wallossek

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Nein, im Silikon gut ausbacken und Pads als Topping. Läuft... :D

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RAZORLIGHT

Veteran

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Ihr könnt Gedanken lesen oder? Genau diesen Lüfter hab ich mir als nächstes gewünscht.
Ob die zu meinem Phanteks P600s passen oder ob ich dafür besser 140er nehme?

Naja hab ja auch noch die Liquid Freezer II 360, das Paket wird dann aber richtig dick 😄

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Pascal TM-Custom

Urgestein

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nee wir sind einfach nur gut :D kennen doch unsere Kundschaft

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Pascal TM-Custom

Urgestein

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Da spricht der Gourmet aus dir raus :LOL:

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Danke für die Spende



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