Temperatures and workarounds
I put this section on the last page on purpose, because otherwise nobody will find it again. And just this much: If you honestly and appropriately adjust the power limit to your used cooling, then Raptor Lake is even a bit easier to cool than Alder-Lake. It all depends on the right contact between the heatspreader (IHS) and the cooler bottom. I did not have any cooling problems in any test phase, neither with the Pure Loop 360 from be quiet! nor with my Alphacool system including chiller. Anyone who lets the Raptor Lake run freely with well over 300 watts just because the motherboard completely brainlessly suggests it (water cooling and 4096 watts) is ultimately to blame themselves. With the usual 288 watt settings, this works completely uncomplainingly and the CPU has a built-in thermal safety leash anyway. Just like the Ryzen 7000. That’s why there is no thematization here in the end, because those who build such systems themselves should also know what they are getting into.
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Summary and Conclusion
Now everyone will probably ask how the three-quarter crown in the title is actually meant. From a purely statistical point of view, it is a clear victory of the Core i9-13900K against the Ryzen 9 7950X in gaming, although life does not only consist of pure gaming. The Core i9-13900K often wins in the workstation and creation field, but not always. And even if it is even a tad more efficient at gaming than AMD’s Ryzen 9 7950X counterpart, it is still the darling of every power supplier under full load during compute or rendering. Yes, the gaming crown is well deserved, although the lead of up to 4 percentage points is not so huge that you could call it a landslide.
It’s the smaller details that count, but subjectively you won’t really feel the well-measured difference in the end. But it can’t be explained away. And the CPU is also coolable if you don’t overdo it with the unleashing in the BIOS. It is better not to go Unlimited, otherwise even the strongest AiO compact water cooling will start to sweat at well over 300 watts. With the selected power limit of 288 Watts in the BIOS, the be quiet! Pure Loop 3060 has no problems, the chiller and custom loop water cooling won’t anyway.
Particularly applications in the part-load range suit the Core i9-13900K and thus this CPU, when it doesn’t have to render 24/7, is a real consideration for many users in the professional field. The only thing that prevents an explicit buy recommendation here is the LGA 1700 socket, which is compatible with Intel’s 13th generation and comes to its end of life at the same time. Whether you now buy such a CPU again will probably also depend on whether you (like me) already own a good Z690 motherboard or have to buy a new LGA-1700 board with Z790 or Z690 chipset. That would be rather less worthwhile.
As an upgrade to a smaller CPU of the 12th generation However, the Core i9-13900K is certainly an acceptable offer for the third generation, which is also almost 100 Euros cheaper than a Ryzen 9 7950X at 749 Euros (street price on 20/10/22 at 8 a.m.). In the end, it is once again a small demonstration of power, but unfortunately also shows that the end of the monolithic giant chips has finally been reached and the socket is thus stuck in a dead end. Thus, this CPU is also a good heirloom for the gallery in the future, when it will have served its purpose in a few years. Meteor Lake will certainly be a completely different story then again.
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The Core i5-13600K naturally gets a bit lost in the halo of the Core i9-13900K, but it has definitely been able to show that it is no pushover. Only the problem with the end of the socket LGA1700 hits it much harder, because who wants a side-grade? Well, the smaller B660 boards are available for under 200 Euros and you can definitely still build new systems here. From that point of view, it certainly fits. The current street price of around 400 Euros (same level as above) still fits, because it is usually faster than a Core i7-12700K and still around 30 Euros cheaper.
Sometimes it even scratches the Core i9-12900K’s performance, especially in games and applications in the partial load range. The Ryzen 7 7700X is about 60 Euros more expensive, not always really faster, but it at least uses a more promising socket. For changing from an old Core i5 or Core i3 of the 12th generation, however, the i5-13600K might still make sense in the 3rd generation if you do not have to buy any other hardware. Nevertheless, you really have to weigh whether you shouldn’t plan better for the future with the Socket AM5.
Intel Core i5-13600K, 6C+8c/20T, 3.50-5.10GHz, boxed ohne Kühler (BX8071513600K)
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What could play into Intel’s hand is the wide availability of suitable motherboards in the somewhat cheaper segment and their partly much lower price with adequate equipment. This is exactly where it gets really difficult with AM5 and mid-range or even entry-level motherboards at the moment. You can easily save 100 Euros on the motherboard with Intel underpinnings in the lower range, and the CPUs are also cheaper in relation. And you can even still use DDR4 RAM with Raptor Lake, which is definitely no longer possible with AM5.
Nevertheless, you should not forget that Socket LGA 1700 is dead as a doornail after Raptor Lake and that the future belongs to muti-chip designs like the Ryzen 7000 or later Meteor Lake. Raptor Lake is also something like a one-chip fossil immortalized in silicon, but it is anything but tame. The only thing is that it also wants to be fed properly in relation to the performance, which must always be taken into account. If you provide enough food, you will certainly have enough pleasure.
The two new CPUs tested were provided by Intel on loan, as were six Ryzen models. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D and all older Intel CPUs are from my private inventory and were purchased myself. The motherboard and memory come from retailers or MSI as well as Corsair and, like the CPUs, were only provided on the condition that the embargo periods for these products were adhered to. There was no direct or indirect influence or compensation for expenses.
- 1 - Introduction, preface and CPU specs
- 2 - What's new with Raptor Lake?
- 3 - Test setup and methodology
- 4 - Gaming Performance HD Ready (1280 x 720 Pixels)
- 5 - Gaming Performance Full HD (1920 x 1080 Pixels)
- 6 - Gaming Performance WQHD (2560 x 1440 Pixels)
- 7 - Autodesk AutoCAD 2021
- 8 - Autodesk Inventor 2021 Pro
- 9 - Rendering, Simulation, Financial, Programming
- 10 - Science and Math
- 11 - Power consumption and efficiency
- 12 - Summary and conclusion
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