Question XFX 5700 XT Cards

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Preface: @Mini_Me has demonstrated profound knowledge when modding the 5700 XT series of graphics cards, and for those looking for an awesome tutorial, please reference https://www.igorslab.de/community/threads/gigabyte-5700-xt-bios-mod-fails.3304/.

Story: At the present time, I own 40 XFX 5700 XT video cards; I have 40 more on order to make a total quantity of 80 cards. With this many cards, squeezing out an additional 1 MegaHash (MH) from each card would translate into +80MH. Out of the box, the stock bios on these XFX 5700 XT cards reflects about 51MH per card. With bios modifications and tweaks, it is possible for me to obtain between 54MH-56MH per card.

Configuration: I have 5 rigs in operation and soon I will have 5 more in operation. Each rig uses 8 cards. I am using HiveOS to manage my rigs.

The importance of bios modifications: Basically, using bios modifications allows each card to provide a better hashrate -- and as hashrate increases, potential ETH mined increases. (More Hash == More $$). Bios modifications also change how each card consumes electricity -- and aside from the initial cost of computer components, electricity is the second greatest cost when it comes to mining.
  • Stock Bios: 80 Cards x 51MH from each card = 4.080GH
  • Modified Bios: 80 Cards x (54MH || 56MH) = (4.320GH || 4.480GH).
The delicate balance in bios modification reflects a specific relationship between: 1.) Power Consumption, 2.) Temperature, 3.) Hashrate, and 4.) Stability vs. Instability. In my opinion, the goal of proper bios modification means that: (a.) each card consumes as little power as necessary, (b.) each card remains within "safe" temperatures to prevent card damage, (c.) each card produces the maximum hashrate, (d.) each card remains stable, which is to say that the card does not produce "invalid" shares or other errors that get in the way of making money.

The above mentioned thread link reflects a dialogue between two members, @Mini_Me and @AlleyCat. The thread is several pages long because it reflects a series of tests (trials, errors, and new trials with new errors, etc.) with different bios values and with different values in HiveOS. There are multiple variables in play (both on the bios tweaking side with MPT and RBE and on the software tweaking side in HiveOS), and changing one variable influences other variables. The thread is so long because many different settings were tried out in order to achieve the best possible result for specific card manufacturers, in this case manufacturer Sapphire and manufacturer Gigabyte.

This post in particular captured my attention: https://www.igorslab.de/community/threads/gigabyte-5700-xt-bios-mod-fails.3304/post-79315.

RBE modified values in use:
Option 1 (Preferable and Recommended), applying Apple Inc. vram timings straps linked below, once for MT61K256M32 Micron, and Save the vbios after that load the saved vbios and once again apply the straps for K4Z80325BC Samsung if it is existed and save the vbios again,
https://www.igorslab.de/community/a...-mt61k256m32_gddr6_optimized_timings-zip.6544

MPT modified values in use:
Features Tab:
PPTable Features -> Feature Control = Nothing done. Left at default.
Overdrive Features = All Boxes Checked.

Overdrive Limits Tab:
GFX Maximum Clock = 1550
Memory Maximum Cock = 1000
Power Limit Maximum = 0
Power Limit Minimum = 0
Memory Timing Control = 1
Fan RPM Maximum = 3500
Fan RPM Minimum = 1100
Fan Acoustic Limit RPM Maximum = 3500
Fan Acoustic Limit RPM Minimum = 1100
Zero RPM Control = 0

Power and Voltage Tab:
Maximum Voltage GFX = 900
Maximum Voltage SoC = 1150
Minimum Voltage GFX = 700
Minimum Voltage SoC = 750
Power Limit GPU = 140
TDC Limit GFX (A) = 140
TDC Limit SoC (A) = 14

Frequency Tab:
GFX Maximum = 1400
GFX Minimum = 300
SoC Maximum = 1267
SoC Minimum = 507
Memory DPM 0 = 100
Memory DPM 1 = 500
Memory DPM 2 = 625
Memory DPM 3 = 960

Curve Tab:
(Left Alone, no change).
AVFS (GHz->V)
Override box is not ticked.
a = 0.017810
b = -0.047280
c = 0.054020
StaticVoltageOffset (GHz->V) = 0.000000

Fan Tab:
PWM Minimum = 15
Fan Acoustic Limit RPM = 1550
Fan Throtteling RPM = 3200
Fan Maximum RPM = 3500
Fan Target Temperature = 85
Fan GFX Clock = 800
Zero RPM Enable Box is ticked.
Stop Temperature = 60
Start Temperature = 68

As you can see, in order to achieve stability (prevent invalid shares, rejected shares, and phoenixminer reboots), I have to run most cards at 1375 core. Other cards I had to reduce to 1325 core. Some cards run at memory 930, some at 905, some at 900, and some at 890.

I know my cards can give better performance. Even though I have reduced power values to reduce # of invalid-rejected shares, phoenixminer still reboots from time to time, and sometimes, I will have a card that will "stop" and disappear ... which causes the phoenixminer rebooter. For these cards, I reduce values.

Any advice from master @Mini_Me would be appreciated.


RIG #1
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RIG #2
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RIG #3
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RIG #4
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RIG #5
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Looking good. I only have one hiveos for now. Minerstat seems to work fine as well.

Your settings were gold. Spot on. At least for samsung :) curious case for micron memory..hope we can find a resolution
Great, I believe I know what XFX vbios version is working normally now, Let me check if there latest version for this version.
 
Alright, please use the low power XFX vbios files for dual and triple fan in the kindly attached link below, modify it following the guide and you are all set,
 

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Folks

I found something interesting, measured the Watts for the cards and checked the following:

Total rig consumption [at wall]790,6W
Without XFX 5700XT Triple Dissipation (micron) [at wall]632,0W
Without 5700XT Sapphire Pulse (micron) [at wall]635,6W



CardWatts on HiveosWatts at Wall
XFX 5700XT Tripple Dissipation (micron)135W158,6W
5700XT Sapphire Pulse (micron)96W155W


I think the way TDP, TBP and TGP is being reported is different on this card ...
 
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Folks

I found something interesting, measured the Watts for the cards and checked the following:

Total rig consumption790,6W
Without XFX 5700XT Triple Dissipation (micron)632,0W
Without 5700XT Sapphire Pulse (micron)635,6W



CardWatts on HiveosWatts at Wall
XFX 5700XT Tripple Dissipation (micron)135W158,6W
5700XT Sapphire Pulse (micron)96W155W


I think the way TDP, TBP and TGP is being reported is different on this card ...
You are correct, It is never recommended to not rely on HiveOS power reading.
 
You are correct, It is never recommended to not rely on HiveOS power reading.


Yes, but if i follow the steps on page 32, the 124W on Power Limit GPU limit the eficient of this card... I think there is something wrong with the api of this card.. I only get the correct hashrate with 140W on Power Limit GPU, and at wall consumption is equivalent to Sapphire 5700xt :

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Yes, that's what I found too. TDP has to be set to 140 for good hashrate. Otherwise, the core clock doesn't reach the target amount. I know eth is mostly memory, but it seems to require a high enough core to reach those 56+ mhs.
 
Yes, that's what I found too. TDP has to be set to 140 for good hashrate. Otherwise, the core clock doesn't reach the target amount. I know eth is mostly memory, but it seems to require a high enough core to reach those 56+ mhs.
I am going to add a special case TDP of 154 W for some XFX cards in the guide.
 
I am going to add a special case TDP of 154 W for some XFX cards in the guide.
I must say that mines work fine with your settings.. I applied to my XFX Triple Dissipation and still not problems at all... Havent tested it on my RAW II yet because i have a bad riser but as soon as i get one i ordered i will report to you back. Heres the image for reference: i tried both settings with this XFX:

  • 1380/770/840/1350/900: After a few hours running getting around 55.4MH/s
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  • 1390/780/850/1350/910: After a few hours running getting around 55.9-56.3MH/s
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I'd be interested to see if your cards are achieving that core clock, it will say in TRM.
 
I must say that mines work fine with your settings.. I applied to my XFX Triple Dissipation and still not problems at all... Havent tested it on my RAW II yet because i have a bad riser but as soon as i get one i ordered i will report to you back. Heres the image for reference: i tried both settings with this XFX:

  • 1380/770/840/1350/900: After a few hours running getting around 55.4MH/s
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  • 1390/780/850/1350/910: After a few hours running getting around 55.9-56.3MH/s
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Are you able to get to 57mhs ?
 
I must say that mines work fine with your settings.. I applied to my XFX Triple Dissipation and still not problems at all... Havent tested it on my RAW II yet because i have a bad riser but as soon as i get one i ordered i will report to you back. Heres the image for reference: i tried both settings with this XFX:

  • 1380/770/840/1350/900: After a few hours running getting around 55.4MH/s
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  • 1390/780/850/1350/910: After a few hours running getting around 55.9-56.3MH/s
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Can you measure the Watts consumption at wall?

Anyway, your card is slightly different from ours: "113-230LNAVIXT612_8GD6_MS_W8" vs "113-180W2NAVI10XT8GD6_MS_191122"
 
Can you measure the Watts consumption at wall?

Anyway, your card is slightly different from ours: "113-230LNAVIXT612_8GD6_MS_W8" vs "113-180W2NAVI10XT8GD6_MS_191122"
Cant... Will have to disconnect all cards and only leave that one plugged in :(

But if I get another board i will plug in only that card into that board and test it for you...
 
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