Question XFX 5700 XT Cards

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Preface: @Mini_Me has demonstrated profound knowledge when modding the 5700 XT series of graphics cards, and for those looking for an awesome tutorial, please reference https://www.igorslab.de/community/threads/gigabyte-5700-xt-bios-mod-fails.3304/.

Story: At the present time, I own 40 XFX 5700 XT video cards; I have 40 more on order to make a total quantity of 80 cards. With this many cards, squeezing out an additional 1 MegaHash (MH) from each card would translate into +80MH. Out of the box, the stock bios on these XFX 5700 XT cards reflects about 51MH per card. With bios modifications and tweaks, it is possible for me to obtain between 54MH-56MH per card.

Configuration: I have 5 rigs in operation and soon I will have 5 more in operation. Each rig uses 8 cards. I am using HiveOS to manage my rigs.

The importance of bios modifications: Basically, using bios modifications allows each card to provide a better hashrate -- and as hashrate increases, potential ETH mined increases. (More Hash == More $$). Bios modifications also change how each card consumes electricity -- and aside from the initial cost of computer components, electricity is the second greatest cost when it comes to mining.
  • Stock Bios: 80 Cards x 51MH from each card = 4.080GH
  • Modified Bios: 80 Cards x (54MH || 56MH) = (4.320GH || 4.480GH).
The delicate balance in bios modification reflects a specific relationship between: 1.) Power Consumption, 2.) Temperature, 3.) Hashrate, and 4.) Stability vs. Instability. In my opinion, the goal of proper bios modification means that: (a.) each card consumes as little power as necessary, (b.) each card remains within "safe" temperatures to prevent card damage, (c.) each card produces the maximum hashrate, (d.) each card remains stable, which is to say that the card does not produce "invalid" shares or other errors that get in the way of making money.

The above mentioned thread link reflects a dialogue between two members, @Mini_Me and @AlleyCat. The thread is several pages long because it reflects a series of tests (trials, errors, and new trials with new errors, etc.) with different bios values and with different values in HiveOS. There are multiple variables in play (both on the bios tweaking side with MPT and RBE and on the software tweaking side in HiveOS), and changing one variable influences other variables. The thread is so long because many different settings were tried out in order to achieve the best possible result for specific card manufacturers, in this case manufacturer Sapphire and manufacturer Gigabyte.

This post in particular captured my attention: https://www.igorslab.de/community/threads/gigabyte-5700-xt-bios-mod-fails.3304/post-79315.

RBE modified values in use:
Option 1 (Preferable and Recommended), applying Apple Inc. vram timings straps linked below, once for MT61K256M32 Micron, and Save the vbios after that load the saved vbios and once again apply the straps for K4Z80325BC Samsung if it is existed and save the vbios again,
https://www.igorslab.de/community/a...-mt61k256m32_gddr6_optimized_timings-zip.6544

MPT modified values in use:
Features Tab:
PPTable Features -> Feature Control = Nothing done. Left at default.
Overdrive Features = All Boxes Checked.

Overdrive Limits Tab:
GFX Maximum Clock = 1550
Memory Maximum Cock = 1000
Power Limit Maximum = 0
Power Limit Minimum = 0
Memory Timing Control = 1
Fan RPM Maximum = 3500
Fan RPM Minimum = 1100
Fan Acoustic Limit RPM Maximum = 3500
Fan Acoustic Limit RPM Minimum = 1100
Zero RPM Control = 0

Power and Voltage Tab:
Maximum Voltage GFX = 900
Maximum Voltage SoC = 1150
Minimum Voltage GFX = 700
Minimum Voltage SoC = 750
Power Limit GPU = 140
TDC Limit GFX (A) = 140
TDC Limit SoC (A) = 14

Frequency Tab:
GFX Maximum = 1400
GFX Minimum = 300
SoC Maximum = 1267
SoC Minimum = 507
Memory DPM 0 = 100
Memory DPM 1 = 500
Memory DPM 2 = 625
Memory DPM 3 = 960

Curve Tab:
(Left Alone, no change).
AVFS (GHz->V)
Override box is not ticked.
a = 0.017810
b = -0.047280
c = 0.054020
StaticVoltageOffset (GHz->V) = 0.000000

Fan Tab:
PWM Minimum = 15
Fan Acoustic Limit RPM = 1550
Fan Throtteling RPM = 3200
Fan Maximum RPM = 3500
Fan Target Temperature = 85
Fan GFX Clock = 800
Zero RPM Enable Box is ticked.
Stop Temperature = 60
Start Temperature = 68

As you can see, in order to achieve stability (prevent invalid shares, rejected shares, and phoenixminer reboots), I have to run most cards at 1375 core. Other cards I had to reduce to 1325 core. Some cards run at memory 930, some at 905, some at 900, and some at 890.

I know my cards can give better performance. Even though I have reduced power values to reduce # of invalid-rejected shares, phoenixminer still reboots from time to time, and sometimes, I will have a card that will "stop" and disappear ... which causes the phoenixminer rebooter. For these cards, I reduce values.

Any advice from master @Mini_Me would be appreciated.


RIG #1
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RIG #2
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RIG #3
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RIG #4
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RIG #5
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Whats the difference between fi.hiveos.farm and the.hiveos.farm? I can't see DPM and MDPM in the first one, but I can not see it in fi. version....

Thanks for these interesting threads, I follow them closely.
 
I set core state to "1" in fi.hiveos.farm and I don't think it changed anything.. my DPM stayed stuck at 2 when i run amd-info...
 
Someone knows if is secure Flash bios with HiveOS or better do with amdvbflash tool???? I moded my xfx with the instructions and when I test with afterburner the fan starts to late when the mem temp its abaut 92c. Then seconds later appears an amd error in windows. BTW, Im using Adrenalin 2020 20.12.1 AMD drivers btw.
 
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Someone knows if is secure Flash bios with HiveOS or better do with amdvbflash tool???? I moded my xfx with the instructions and when I test with afterburner the fan starts to late when the mem temp its abaut 92c. Then seconds later appears an amd error in windows. BTW, Im using Adrenalin 2020 20.12.1 AMD drivers btw.
Greetings,

You can test the below,

- Under Fan tab, set:
Stop Temperature 50° C
Start Temperature 60° C
 
Greetings,

You can test the below,

- Under Fan tab, set:
Stop Temperature 50° C
Start Temperature 60° C
Im testing with HiveOS directly. Are they the same BIOS for XFX Thic III with Micron and Samsung? Or I have to modify bios for each different memory?? and for the XFX Thic III ULTRA? They are all 5700XT.

The graphic card is apparently working fine with no Rejected or incorrects.. But when the system starts, the fans dont work at the % configured. I have to change config to start working normally. At first didnt seems a problem but if the system reboot and I haven't seen it ,Memory takes 100c...
 
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Im testing with HiveOS directly. Are they the same BIOS for XFX Thic III with Micron and Samsung? Or I have to modify bios for each different memory?? and for the XFX Thic III ULTRA? They are all 5700XT.

The graphic card is apparently working fine with no Rejected or incorrects.. But when the system starts, the fans dont work at the % configured. I have to change config to start working normally. At first didnt seems a problem but if the system reboot and I haven't seen it ,Memory takes 100c...
Please send me your vbios card both performance and silent one, I may be able to bring you newer version better than the current ones.
 
Hello,
Was hoping someone may have experience with the cards that I am using. I have some XFX triple dissipation 5700 XT cards. Here are my stable settings but i have not been able to get them to the same performance that others have gotten. They are on stock bios because every time I flash a bios, I can get 57 but it will crash after a few minutes. Perhaps I could get some help @Mini_Me. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

And do the fans need to be on full blast like this ?
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Hello,
Was hoping someone may have experience with the cards that I am using. I have some XFX triple dissipation 5700 XT cards. Here are my stable settings but i have not been able to get them to the same performance that others have gotten. They are on stock bios because every time I flash a bios, I can get 57 but it will crash after a few minutes. Perhaps I could get some help @Mini_Me. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

And do the fans need to be on full blast like this ?
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Hello and welcome,

I will update you after I finish whenever it is possible.
 
Im testing with HiveOS directly. Are they the same BIOS for XFX Thic III with Micron and Samsung? Or I have to modify bios for each different memory?? and for the XFX Thic III ULTRA? They are all 5700XT.

The graphic card is apparently working fine with no Rejected or incorrects.. But when the system starts, the fans dont work at the % configured. I have to change config to start working normally. At first didnt seems a problem but if the system reboot and I haven't seen it ,Memory takes 100c...
Greetings,

I have checked all your vbios files and all of them are v68 except one the 230WLN which you can use the updated vbios file v68 in the kindly attached below, before you flash the vbios put the switch on the silent (quiet/normal) side then flash,

Please follow the guide in the kindly attached link below as I update it recently,

 

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Hello,
Was hoping someone may have experience with the cards that I am using. I have some XFX triple dissipation 5700 XT cards. Here are my stable settings but i have not been able to get them to the same performance that others have gotten. They are on stock bios because every time I flash a bios, I can get 57 but it will crash after a few minutes. Perhaps I could get some help @Mini_Me. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

And do the fans need to be on full blast like this ?
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Greetings,

Your vbios version is new v68,

Please follow the guide in the kindly attached link below as I update it recently,

 
Hello @Mini_Me ,
Appreciate your guidance. I've gone through the guide and modified my bios. Perhaps you could take a look that I did everything fine. I am still not able to get the 56-57 that everyone is getting. Please see below. I've only flashed the first card as a test. Thank you for your time.
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Hello @Mini_Me ,
Appreciate your guidance. I've gone through the guide and modified my bios. Perhaps you could take a look that I did everything fine. I am still not able to get the 56-57 that everyone is getting. Please see below. I've only flashed the first card as a test. Thank you for your time.
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Have you applied Apple Inc. optimized memory timings yet?
 
Greetings,

I have checked all your vbios files and all of them are v68 except one the 230WLN which you can use the updated vbios file v68 in the kindly attached below, before you flash the vbios put the switch on the silent (quiet/normal) side then flash,

Please follow the guide in the kindly attached link below as I update it recently,

Hi!,

When you refer to 230WLN is that version of XFX??
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sorry for the confusion...
 
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